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    Sources of History of Rana Dynasty of Gohad/Dholpur

    Some research project has been undertaken on the role of Gohad and its Ranas.

    It would be good if some original sources both Primary an Secondary on the topic are suggested to complete it.

    Thanks and Regards
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    Rajpalji we have some information on Jatland at [wiki]Gohad[/wiki]

    Also see [wiki]Talk:Gohad[/wiki]
    Laxman Burdak

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    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    Rajpalji we have some information on Jatland at Gohad

    Also see Talk:Gohad
    Thanks Shri Burdakji for pointing out the source of some really useful information on the topic.

    The British point of view is elaborately available but I want to compare it with the Maratha, Mughal and Jat sources to arrive at some objective conclusion.

    Could more sources from the last mentioned category suggested by the readers !

    Thanks and regards
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    Rajpalji,

    Jat Samaj Kalyan Parishad Gwalior has sponsored one research study on Ranas of Gohad and it is likely to be published shortly. You can contact Shri Ram Vir Singh at [wiki]Jat Samaj Kalyan Parishad[/wiki]
    Laxman Burdak

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    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    Rajpalji,

    Jat Samaj Kalyan Parishad Gwalior has sponsored one research study on Ranas of Gohad and it is likely to be published shortly. You can contact Shri Ram Vir Singh at Jat Samaj Kalyan Parishad
    Thanks Burdakji for this important information.

    I shall definitely be in touch with Shri Singh.

    Regards and best wishes
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    Some research project has been undertaken on the role of Gohad and its Ranas.

    It would be good if some original sources both Primary an Secondary on the topic are suggested to complete it.

    Thanks and Regards
    "Rana" is a very old and widespread family name, i have seen people writing "Rana" family name in Iran as well. It is a very common family name in "Rajputs" as well.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; December 7th, 2013 at 04:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    Some research project has been undertaken on the role of Gohad and its Ranas.

    It would be good if some original sources both Primary an Secondary on the topic are suggested to complete it.

    Thanks and Regards
    "Rana" is a common family name in Iran, if u google it out with "Rana+Iran", u will find lot of people with "Rana" family name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    "Rana" is a very old and widespread family name, i have seen people writing "Rana" family name in Iran as well. It is a very common family name in "Rajputs" as well.
    And

    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    "Rana" is a common family name in Iran, if u google it out with "Rana+Iran", u will find lot of people with "Rana" family name.
    Friend,

    Our project relates to Rana Jat ruling dynasty of Gohad which later was shifted to Dholpur and not the Ranas of Iran or Rajputs ! If you have something new to add to already known facts of the sources on the topic, your inputs are welcome !

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    And



    Friend,

    Our project relates to Rana Jat ruling dynasty of Gohad which later was shifted to Dholpur and not the Ranas of Iran or Rajputs ! If you have something new to add to already known facts of the sources on the topic, your inputs are welcome !

    Thanks,

    Sorry, no idea, i have not explored history in this view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Sorry, no idea, i have not explored history in this view.
    Thanks.

    Other members who could have some idea about the information required are requested to come up with their inputs.
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    I shall be thankful if Burdakji, Deswal Ji or any other friend could suggest some more good reference material on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    I shall be thankful if Burdakji, Deswal Ji or any other friend could suggest some more good reference material on the subject.
    The Ranas of Gohad in conjugation with the Jats of Bharatpur are said to have played a very sterling role in checking the Maratha advance towards northern India in 1766-67.

    We are looking forward to find some reference material on the topic. Could any one suggest sources on the issue.
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    Hello Sir,
    I only know very little about it but coming from Bharatpur I know it all related to Bagru War that started on 20 August 1748. In spite of the war, Maharaja Suraj Mal spent a lot of money on Marathas providing Camps etc after Marathas were defeated at the third battle of Panipat.
    My Bua is married into the royal family of Dholpur. They are Bamraolia jats and were based in Gohad (as their state )and also Dahod.

    The Bamraolia clan had effectively been destroyed by the Scindia then spent the next twenty-years fighting each other in a bloody tussle for power. Eventually all the clan leaders resolved to settle their differences by choosing a single ruler in the person of Kirat Singh, a cousin of the deceased Rana. Installed at Baghthurra Fortress in 1803, he at once revived the alliance with the British. They agreed to restore Gohad to him in return for his help in crushing the Maratha power. However, once hostilities ceased, Scindia opposed the restoration. The Rana then agreed to surrender Gohad in 1805, receiving Dholpur, Bari and Rajakhera as compensation in the following year. The ancient town of Dholpur became the capital of the new state, from which the state also took its name.
    I will dig down more and get back.
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    We are compiling here also - [wiki]Bamraulia[/wiki]
    Laxman Burdak

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    See also [wiki]Gohad Fort[/wiki]
    Laxman Burdak

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    You may find more references on Jatland in following articles -

    1. [wiki]Maharaja Bhim Singh Rana[/wiki]

    2. [wiki]Maharaja Chhatra Singh Rana[/wiki]
    Laxman Burdak

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    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    You may find more references on Jatland in following articles -

    1. Maharaja Bhim Singh Rana

    2. Maharaja Chhatra Singh Rana
    Thanks Burdakji for providing links !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gauri View Post
    Hello Sir,
    I only know very little about it but coming from Bharatpur I know it all related to Bagru War that started on 20 August 1748. In spite of the war, Maharaja Suraj Mal spent a lot of money on Marathas providing Camps etc after Marathas were defeated at the third battle of Panipat.
    My Bua is married into the royal family of Dholpur. They are Bamraolia jats and were based in Gohad (as their state )and also Dahod.

    The Bamraolia clan had effectively been destroyed by the Scindia then spent the next twenty-years fighting each other in a bloody tussle for power. Eventually all the clan leaders resolved to settle their differences by choosing a single ruler in the person of Kirat Singh, a cousin of the deceased Rana. Installed at Baghthurra Fortress in 1803, he at once revived the alliance with the British. They agreed to restore Gohad to him in return for his help in crushing the Maratha power. However, once hostilities ceased, Scindia opposed the restoration. The Rana then agreed to surrender Gohad in 1805, receiving Dholpur, Bari and Rajakhera as compensation in the following year. The ancient town of Dholpur became the capital of the new state, from which the state also took its name.
    I will dig down more and get back.
    Thanks for sharing important piece of information.
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    Sindhia Jat Sambandh with special reference to Gohad

    सिंधिया-जाट सम्बन्ध - गोहद के विशेष सन्दर्भ में

    लेखक - डॉ. प्रद्युम्न कुमार ओझा

    प्रकाशक - जाटवीर प्रकाशन, ग्वालियर

    जाट समाज कल्याण परिषद, एफ/13, डॉ राजेन्द्र प्रसाद कालोनी, तानसेन मार्ग ,ग्वालियर-474002

    दूरभाष : 0751 -2382130

    प्रथम संस्करण - 2014

    Note- 'Sindhia Jat Sambandh with special reference to Gohad' is the recently published book in Hindi by Jat Samaj Kalyan Parishad Gwalior. Author of the book is Dr. Pradyumna Kumar Ojha. The book has been writtenafter content well researched from remains of the Gohad rulers in the form of forts, wells, baories, temples etc in area around Gohad and Gwalior. Author has consulted sources in English, Marathi, Persian, Urdu languages and the books of traditional record keepers Jagas, Bhats, Charans etc.
    Laxman Burdak

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    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    Sindhia Jat Sambandh with special reference to Gohad

    सिंधिया-जाट सम्बन्ध - गोहद के विशेष सन्दर्भ में

    लेखक - डॉ. प्रद्युम्न कुमार ओझा

    प्रकाशक - जाटवीर प्रकाशन, ग्वालियर

    जाट समाज कल्याण परिषद, एफ/13, डॉ राजेन्द्र प्रसाद कालोनी, तानसेन मार्ग ,ग्वालियर-474002

    दूरभाष : 0751 -2382130

    प्रथम संस्करण - 2014

    Note- 'Sindhia Jat Sambandh with special reference to Gohad' is the recently published book in Hindi by Jat Samaj Kalyan Parishad Gwalior. Author of the book is Dr. Pradyumna Kumar Ojha. The book has been writtenafter content well researched from remains of the Gohad rulers in the form of forts, wells, baories, temples etc in area around Gohad and Gwalior. Author has consulted sources in English, Marathi, Persian, Urdu languages and the books of traditional record keepers Jagas, Bhats, Charans etc.
    This seems to be a well researched book on the topic.
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