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    How Islam spread in India

    bhaiyon,

    maariyo madi si light ihh topic pai.

    Nyu tai Khair Islam middle east tai aaya sai India mai. lekin kayi keh sai k yo force na karya loggan pai. yo India mai logga na apnaya sai.

    Ek website tai ya ri

    http://lostislamichistory.com/how-is...read-in-india/

    apne vichar prakat kariyo bhaiyo.

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    This video gives a good summary of Islam in India. Ignore the truth at your own national cost;



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    Yezidi ke uppar jo hoya se usne 1000 te multiply kar le bhai, Pher bhee kuchh seculisrist te seculirist hee rahwen ge...
    Sarre ke sarre forcefully converted se, yaa te talwar te yaa jazziya te, yaa rape te, peacefully bante ho te yzzidi pahad pe naa chadde e.

    Quote Originally Posted by manojmalik007 View Post
    bhaiyon,

    maariyo madi si light ihh topic pai.

    Nyu tai Khair Islam middle east tai aaya sai India mai. lekin kayi keh sai k yo force na karya loggan pai. yo India mai logga na apnaya sai.

    Ek website tai ya ri

    http://lostislamichistory.com/how-is...read-in-india/

    apne vichar prakat kariyo bhaiyo.
    "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent..."

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    More than these indoctrinated people of a particcular faith, the pseudo-seculars and self-proclaimed intellectuals are a dangerous breed of pests/termites.

    This breed wants to paint a very rosy picture and not face the harsh truth which is staring us all in our face. How much religious terror can and should the people suffer before saying enough is enough?

    This dangerous breed needs to packed off to Andaman Nicobar Islands and the world should unite against this scourge of religious terrorism which is endangering all the people across the globe. The sooner the better!

    Quote Originally Posted by rkumar View Post
    This video gives a good summary of Islam in India. Ignore the truth at your own national cost;



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    Islam was not forced on Indians. In fact people willingly accepted and professed. The would have been few incidents here there but that does not mean we generalize such incidents wide across the society.

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    The topic is started to ask about history, and this should be discussed as a neutral historian. Not like what the current state of this.

    How history is made, we can only know from books. But if we analyse how we behave in different situations we can certainly grasp about the history.

    I would like to suggest, read some authentic books and references rather learn history from discussion site or personal views.

    Here we can talk about some topics or all inclusive. But certainly the all big material can not be posted here.
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    Shiv K. Chaudhary
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    Very balanced article on the subject;

    History of Islam in India
    by Dr. Neria H. Hebbar
    Introduction

    ‘Islamization’ of India did not occur as a result of mass conversions. The process took several centuries. Though the province of Sindh was conquered in early 8th century it was not until the incursions of Mahmud of Ghazni and Muhammad of Ghor that serious settlement of the subcontinent with Muslims took place. Even then contrary to belief it was not the forced conversions that increased the number of Muslims in India. Of course, the unfair taxes called jizya of all non-Muslims had an effect. Many Hindus were forced to convert to Islam to escape from the punishing taxes. The invading sultans like Qutb ud-din Aibak and Ala-ud-din Khilji often offered clemency to the enemy after their defeat if they converted to Islam. Many of these local rulers switched back to Hinduism as soon as the sultans turned their backs and returned to Delhi. The major reason for mass settlement of India by Muslims was the invasion of Mongols into central Asia. Genghis Khan, his grandsons and later Timurlane wreaked havoc in the Central Asian countries causing migration of countless number of people seeking refuge in the relative safety of India.

    Just how disastrous Muslim conquest was for India and how much resistance had been offered to preserve its heritage by Hindu rulers are controversial subjects. Much of the history was written by Muslim historians and could be biased. The little history documented by Indians was also written with an eye towards glorifying their kings. These as well could be simply exaggerations. Hindu writers write about countless accounts of heroism by their warrior, some of them mere boys in their teens. Some of the fiercest resistance probably came from lesser tribes and simply went undocumented. However, it is clear that the Muslim conquest of India took several centuries. Idolatry was condemned but many sultans simply ignored the practice by the Hindus and did not impose Islam on them forcibly. Better results were obtained by imposing taxes on non-Muslims, although the Brahmins and some Buddhists were exempt form it until the rule of Feroz Shah Tughlaq in the latter half of 14th century. When the Mughals established their empire, the whole of India was almost completely under the Muslim rule, especially during the rule of Aurangazeb. Religious fanaticism of Aurangazeb, unlike his ancestor Mughals finally led to the cessation of Muslim control of India. As a consequence of his intolerance, the Mughal Empire weakened precipitously after his death and steadily shrank in size over the next century and a half, to finally be taken over by another foreign force in the nineteenth century, the British. What Akbar had achieved with tolerance and reconciliation was reversed by Aurangzeb’s zeal to force Islam on Hindus.

    The religion of Islam stormed into India in a similar manner as it did in the Arabian countries. Powerful regimes succumbed to the religion at a remarkably fast pace as evidenced by the fact that within a century after its inception, it had spread to the entire Middle East and Northern Africa. But in India, Islam had a more difficult time to insinuate into the Hindu and Buddhist societies. Even then, ‘Islamization’ of India took several centuries and was never complete. The barbaric nature of the sultanates rule and the invasion of Mongols may have had a negative effect on the Hindu practitioners. The earlier Mughals had breeched the division somewhat, but Aurangzeb in his zeal to turn India into an Islamic nation alienated all other religions. From then onward ‘moderate Muslim rule’ was an oxymoron. It is also apparent that the Hindus revered their idols much more than the Muslim conquerors estimated. A sweep of India never occurred and India remained predominantly Hindu, with only about twenty percent of its population as Muslims, at any given time in its history.

    Greater India once included Pakistan and Afghanistan. Gandhara is mentioned in Mahabharata epic (Gandhari, wife of Drtarashtra hailed from Gandhara). Ashoka and Kanishka ruled Afghanistan and it was an integral part of India until it was lost to Islam. Afghanistan had been lost to India for many centuries until Babur, the founder of the Mughal Empire, united it with India. Lost to Shah of Persia by Humayun, Akbar had re established the sovereignty in Afghanistan by conquering both Kabul valley and Kandahar. Then Jahangir and Shah Jahan lost Kandahar forever to the Shah of Iran, never to be regained though Kabul remained in Mughal hands until the reign of Aurangzeb. Even the British in the nineteenth century were unable to re-conquer it. India lost further territory when Pakistan and Bangladesh were lost to India in the modern era, in the middle of twentieth century.

    As you read this article it will surely dispel the myth that the Mughals were more detrimental to Hindu dominance of India than any other dynasty. If destruction of Hindu temples is any measure the Sultans of Delhi did far worse damage than the Mughals (except Aurangzeb). The marauders like the Mahmud of Ghazni, Muhammad of Ghor, Timurlane, Nadir Shah and Ahmad Shah Abdali did loot and destroy idols in the temples all over the North, but the rulers like Aibak, Iltumish, Khilji and Feroz Shah Tughlaq, continued to do the desecration of temples in the name of cleansing the religion of Hindus and Buddhists over a long period of time in a sustained way. A large library of Buddhist literature was set ablaze by Khilji in Odantapuri, even before knowing what they contained.

    As I researched for this article, I realized that there were many unsung heroes in the history who bravely confronted the attackers. Their stories are forgotten because Indians never developed the habit of writing down history. They relied on their memory to remember events (just as the Vedas had been memorized for generations). But this was regretful, as history shows that the Hindus eventually forgot their history and made the mistake of repeating it, often committing the same mistakes over and over again. This folly was exploited fully by the invading Muslims as well the British at a later date.

    Source:http://www.boloji.com/index.cfm?md=C...&ArticleID=776

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    Dude are you on dope? Come with bloody facts otherwise don't spread your Islam propaganda here.
    Seriously doubt if you are Jat at all, never saw a post of yours related to Jats.
    Wonder what you want to prove here?

    Quote Originally Posted by vk23 View Post
    Islam was not forced on Indians. In fact people willingly accepted and professed. The would have been few incidents here there but that does not mean we generalize such incidents wide across the society.
    .. " Until Lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always glorify the hunter! " ..



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    Watch this from the so called absolute scholar of Islam, Zakir Naik the great;



    What seculars have to say ???

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    Islamic people have different thinking.

    They always try to convert other people into Islam. Main reason is that they think each word of Quran is true and word of Allah.

    Ek pakistani cricketer srilanka cricketer ko islam kabul ne liye bol raha tha Camera ke samne hi. bol raha tha Islam kabul karo or Jaant main jaao.

    For example:-

    If you have tattoo it's crime in Islam. But If you'll kill innocent people Allah rehmat dega.

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    It's said that Kaaba was a Shiva temple

    The reasons given seem to have a lot of weight in terms of the practices being followed by the pilgrims there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-9VzZeOdcE

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    Quote Originally Posted by amankadian View Post
    Islamic people have different thinking.

    They always try to convert other people into Islam. Main reason is that they think each word of Quran is true and word of Allah.

    Ek pakistani cricketer srilanka cricketer ko islam kabul ne liye bol raha tha Camera ke samne hi. bol raha tha Islam kabul karo or Jaant main jaao.

    For example:-

    If you have tattoo it's crime in Islam. But If you'll kill innocent people Allah rehmat dega.


    Kindly read the thread and please decide whether the post relates to the thread topic that too in history section.

    After reading it, do the needful please.
    History is best when created, better when re-constructed and worst when invented.

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    An Appeal

    The thread relates to tracing the history and growth of the Islam on Indian soil. You can either choose chronological growth of various ruling dynasties or role of religious leaders, role of sufis, art, language literature or any other related topics. Just generalised comments could be made in 'general discussion section.'

    It is requested to the participants to join this topic with all seriousness that would be an addition to our knowledge but irrelevant material taken from here and there regarding Islam around the continents of the globe will be an exercise in futility.

    Sh. Shivam Chaudhary has already requested and I also join here to request you kindly to cooperate and post only that information which makes us wiser to understand the progress and development of Islam in India.

    Thanks and regards
    History is best when created, better when re-constructed and worst when invented.

  22. #14
    accepted
    mohammed bin quasim was executed because he married a princess from sindh.
    but according to rule all war booty belonged to khaliffa

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    An Appeal

    The thread relates to tracing the history and growth of the Islam on Indian soil. You can either choose chronological growth of various ruling dynasties or role of religious leaders, role of sufis, art, language literature or any other related topics. Just generalised comments could be made in 'general discussion section.'

    It is requested to the participants to join this topic with all seriousness that would be an addition to our knowledge but irrelevant material taken from here and there regarding Islam around the continents of the globe will be an exercise in futility.

    Sh. Shivam Chaudhary has already requested and I also join here to request you kindly to cooperate and post only that information which makes us wiser to understand the progress and development of Islam in India.

    Thanks and regards
    History means different thing to different people. Chronological recording does not mean that everything was recorded correctly and honestly. I look differently. What we see see today in a society, is a result of cumulative happenings of entire past. Past can be deduced from present by applications of scientific ideas. Today's Islamic thoughts are not a random event. These are the continuation of last 1300 years. I see no reason why the concepts of modeling can not be applied to understand history. People like me are more interested in the ideology of Islam and its applications to control the masses more than the architecture and other recordable events.

    RK^2
    There are many paths leading to God, politics is certainly not one of them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkumar View Post
    History means different thing to different people. Chronological recording does not mean that everything was recorded correctly and honestly. I look differently. What we see see today in a society, is a result of cumulative happenings of entire past. Past can be deduced from present by applications of scientific ideas. Today's Islamic thoughts are not a random event. These are the continuation of last 1300 years. I see no reason why the concepts of modeling can not be applied to understand history. People like me are more interested in the ideology of Islam and its applications to control the masses more than the architecture and other recordable events.

    RK^2
    Friend,

    Thanks for your valuable comment.

    The attempt would result in putting horse before the cart, because, to understand the present, the past is considered a sure guide. And the present is the foundation on which our future is to be built. So present is the link between past and future as the present cannot influence the past whereas past keeps on having effect on the present and through present this influence goes to shape the future too.

    Thanks and regards,
    History is best when created, better when re-constructed and worst when invented.

  25. #17
    It is agreed that perceptions about 'what is history' are varied; there may be some truth in every one of them.

    But, if one desires to understand the historic facts, one has to delve deep in the past records/remains of monuments/literature/art/literature and the ideas and ideology prevalent at that particular period of time. This would enable him to understand the objective conditions that shaped that particular period.

    After having a grasp on those things one can apply the relevant findings to present socio-political conditions for its betterment with the hope that their application would provide better future to coming generation.
    History is best when created, better when re-constructed and worst when invented.

  26. #18
    kuch case maine b dekhe hain.....chennai side me Muslims bot jyda hain, vo bolte hain ki humare purvajon ko jabardasti islam kabul karaya gaya tha.

    Aajkal jo case samne aa rha hai uke according ye h ki agar koi mushlim kisi hindu ko islam kabul krata h to use Rs.60000 approx prize money diya jata hai.

    Rahi baat Muslims ki population badne ki to india me agar max muslims ko dekha jye to 1 bande k 4-5 bache milte hain. Aise b case hain ki khud ka pait bharne me problem ho rhi h or unke bache 4-5 hain.......inki ek he thinking h ki hume apne abadi badhani h or hindu abadi k barabar hona hai. iska ek example aapne news me dekha hoga jab Ajam Khan ne apne bhashan me kaha tha ki muslims ki abadi badhao aur apni sarkar lao.
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    VIKAS DHANKHAR





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    THE MOST DANGEROUS PERSON IN THE WORLD IS ONE WITH AN IDEA....!!!!!!
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