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Thread: Impact of President Obama's recent Visit on Indo-American Relations

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    One must remember there are more Spanish/Hispanic, Chinese, etc. populations in USA than Indians.

    India can not carry on the legacy systems of Gandhi, etc. etc. these mere political stunts or bad politics, these are the ways through which people are made to forget real problems of everyday life.

    India needs to reinvent itself if it has to come to a world stage.

    There is a need for restructuring at every level from Indian parliamentary system to the lowest level of execution.

    Politicians based on religion, regions, communities, family politics can not/should not have any place in Indian politics.

    Politicians out of India are not "Fools", and they know that Indian parliament is full of people who come from certain communities and how Indian leaders have worked in the past.

    If u look at Amerikan parliamentary system or Chinese Government system, nothing of Indian parliamentary system exists.

    What most governments in India have been doing is that they have been existing on the miseries of everyday person and same is going on even now.

    A simple example is "Metro train must have been introduced in India way back in 1990's", which never happened.

    Gandhi or any other legacy leaders have their own place in Indian history but they can not be made an excuse of reinvention or restructuring of India in today's world.

    Religion and religious people must not have any place in this restructuring of India.
    If such people have a place in Indian context it is limited to spirituality, which is a matter of self practice.
    Secularity and self determination of religious freedom must be the root of every individual and not of society, group or a country.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; February 6th, 2015 at 04:53 PM.

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  3. #22
    Why Obama targeting India democracy? There is Zero Impact of him. Why Indian govt. and media giving him hype. While he is keep commenting on India

  4. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Gandhi or any other legacy leaders have their own place in Indian history but they can not be made an excuse of reinvention or restructuring of India in today's world.

    Religion and religious people must not have any place in this restructuring of India.
    If such people have a place in Indian context it is limited to spirituality, which is a matter of self practice.
    Secularity and self determination of religious freedom must be the root of every individual and not of society, group or a country.
    Indian State is secular. So do not worry on that count.

    Religious freedom to individual is guaranteed as a fundamental right in our constitution.

    It seems some ill informed people about this factual position and right of the man, raise unnecessary noise on this individual choice of faith by people.
    History is best when created, better when re-constructed and worst when invented.

  5. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by ManjeetS View Post
    Why Obama targeting India democracy? There is Zero Impact of him. Why Indian govt. and media giving him hype. While he is keep commenting on India
    What targeting !

    He accepts India as the biggest democracy of the world and demonstrated his acceptance by joining Republic Day celebrations on 26th January, 2015.
    History is best when created, better when re-constructed and worst when invented.

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  7. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    Indian State is secular. So do not worry on that count.

    Religious freedom to individual is guaranteed as a fundamental right in our constitution.

    It seems some ill informed people about this factual position and right of the man, raise unnecessary noise on this individual choice of faith by people.
    A state should have a common civil code to be called a true secular. India is still hiding behind old laws which only work for the benefit of Advocates, Policemen, people in Judiciary and alike.

  8. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    What targeting !

    He accepts India as the biggest democracy of the world and demonstrated his acceptance by joining Republic Day celebrations on 26th January, 2015.
    Every country have little issues

    American black and white conflict ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_..._United_States ). Three-four times he just mention about India.

  9. #27
    Indians abroad are represented by educated, semi skilled, uneducated Indians who are traveling throughout the world to work, trade, etc.


    The problem in Indian scenario is with the quality of parliamentarians sitting in the central and state parliaments.

    Freedom of movement brought by introduction of vehicles in the remotest part of India and freedom of information flow must not become freedom of judgement by religious, political and other social groups.

  10. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Arvindc View Post
    A state should have a common civil code to be called a true secular. India is still hiding behind old laws which only work for the benefit of Advocates, Policemen, people in Judiciary and alike.
    " India is still hiding behind old laws which only work for the benefit of Advocates, Policemen, people in Judiciary and alike ":

    Old laws: Yes or maybe. Some laws might be relevant, some might not be, some need to be rectified.

    "benefit of Advocates, Policemen, people in Judiciary and alike" : "Benefit of advocates, policemen, judiciary", i would say "NO". What u mean to say is that there is a corrupt system running and feeding the parliamentary, political, religious and other segments of the institution.

    A job in central or state government in Indian scenario is mostly for making money and securing personal life, family life and life of future generation of who so ever is serving the government, although there are exceptional honest government servants as well.

    Interestingly all the government servants are educated from the lowest level of education yet they have to serve ministers who are neither rational, nor educated in proper scene nor do they have proper judgement power for making correct government decisions which effects the masses.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; February 7th, 2015 at 10:56 PM.

  11. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by ManjeetS View Post
    Every country have little issues

    American black and white conflict ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_..._United_States ). Three-four times he just mention about India.
    Two bad things do not make one good ! As in the instant case, to justify occurrence of incidents of communal violence your citation of the link seems to point out that US also is facing problems of racial violence so need not worry communal violence in India.

    Yes, no foreign country is expected to interfere into the internal affairs of other country and President Obama's recent comments at his Srifort Open Meet with the people on the increase in communal violence falls in the category of interference in internal affairs of India. They could have been better avoided for better progress of normalization of relations between the two great democracies of the world.

    Inncrease in racial or communal violence related incidents either in USA or India or for that matter anywhere, is a serious matter of concern and the concerned governments are expected to curb them with an iron hand by taking timely action so as to check their further proliferation.
    History is best when created, better when re-constructed and worst when invented.

  12. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    " India is still hiding behind old laws which only work for the benefit of Advocates, Policemen, people in Judiciary and alike ":

    Old laws: Yes or maybe. Some laws might be relevant, some might not be, some need to be rectified.

    "benefit of Advocates, Policemen, people in Judiciary and alike" : "Benefit of advocates, policemen, judiciary", i would say "NO". What u mean to say is that there is a corrupt system running and feeding the parliamentary, political, religious and other segments of the institution.

    A job in central or state government in Indian scenario is mostly for making money and securing personal life, family life and life of future generation of who so ever is serving the government, although there are exceptional honest government servants as well.

    Interestingly all the government servants are educated from the lowest level of education yet they have to serve ministers who are neither rational, nor educated in proper scene nor do they have proper judgement power for making correct government decisions which effects the masses.
    "Interestingly all the government servants are educated from the lowest level of education yet they have to serve ministers who are neither rational, nor educated in proper scene nor do they have proper judgement power for making correct government decisions which effects the masses.":

    Some one hacked and changed my words, here is the actual statement that i wanted to state: "Interestingly all the government servants are educated from the lowest level of education to the highest level of education, yet they have to serve ministers who are neither rational, nor educated in proper scene nor do these ministers have proper judgement power for making correct government decisions which effects the masses."

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  14. #31
    i think that the speech of obama at siri fort auditorium is interfere in the internal matter of india. external affair ministry ko isko condemn karna chahiye tha, ye hamare liye khus hone ki baat nahi hai, aur na is issue par poltics karke secularism ka jhanda uthane ki jarurat hai, is issue ko goi ko handle karna chahiye, aur ek bayan jari karke america ko batana chahiye ki wo hamare internal matter me interfare na kare,,,,,,,,,

  15. #32
    Due the kind of leaders and other issues present in western developed countries.

    Western countries are being left behind in the technological race around the world. New Technologies which will be forming the base of economies seem to be shifting to countries like China, Korea, India and the new emerging economies. Although India is far behind and there is no comparison with technologically developed countries like Korea, China, etc. and may even loose out the countries like Vietnam, Philippines, etc because of the kind of parliamentarians sitting in the Indian and state parliament.


    The main problem is western countries changing demographics the rules and the work culture that these developed nations apply to other international citizens have a negative impact on their economies. Lot of these countries have a outdated visa regimes , which create trouble for new age workers whether that be mental workers like engineers, architects, etc. or physical workers. These outdated visa regimes in lot of developed countries have a negative impact on the growth of technology and economy.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; February 13th, 2015 at 06:17 AM.

  16. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Due the kind of leaders and other issues present in western developed countries.

    Western countries are being left behind in the technological race around the world. New Technologies which will be forming the base of economies seem to be shifting to countries like China, Korea, India and the new emerging economies. Although India is far behind and there is no comparison with technologically developed countries like Korea, China, etc. and may even loose out the countries like Vietnam, Philippines, etc because of the kind of parliamentarians sitting in the Indian and state parliament.


    The main problem is western countries changing demographics the rules and the work culture that these developed nations apply to other international citizens have a negative impact on their economies. Lot of these countries have a outdated visa regimes , which create trouble for new age workers whether that be mental workers like engineers, architects, etc. or physical workers. These outdated visa regimes in lot of developed countries have a negative impact on the growth of technology and economy.
    Kind of leaders in the west can be seen from the example of European Union. The difference in the quality of leaders in the west is having problems in European Union.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; February 14th, 2015 at 07:16 PM.

  17. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Kind of leaders in the west can be seen from the example of European Union. The difference in the leader quality in the west is having problems in European Union.
    Amerika on the other hand is working on a global level and has its own problems as it is engaged at many different fronts.

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