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    Delhi elections and Win of AAP

    Delhi election and "Win of AAP", is not just a coincidence.

    It is high time to organize state structures in order.

    If this does not happen next 5 years will lead to total CHAOS for governance. It is due to changing demographics of the country that CHAOS is going to occur.

    Smaller structure also means better administration and governance with focused issues.

    Formation of new states inform of "Western Utter Pradesh" "Eastern Utter Pradesh" and formation of "Gorkhaland state", is of prime importance.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; February 11th, 2015 at 03:56 PM.

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    This election has made it clear for BJP that do some work instead of just talking about plans otherwise the result of Delhi can be repeated at national level. The Victory of AAP is superb.
    Yoginder Gulia

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  5. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by ygulia View Post
    This election has made it clear for BJP that do some work instead of just talking about plans otherwise the result of Delhi can be repeated at national level. The Victory of AAP is superb.

    Yes, but Mr. Kajriwal has to refine his focus on development issues that he is addressing or has addressed in his manifesto, being an educated person he has to have a different approach and follow a "NON VIP", policy.

    Populist measures will only lead him to same path as other national and local political parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Delhi election and "Win of AAP", is not just a coincidence.

    It is high time to organize state structures in order.

    If this does not happen next 5 years will lead to total CHAOS for governance. It is due to changing demographics of the country that CHAOS is going to occur.

    Smaller structure also means better administration and governance with focused issues.

    Formation of new states inform of "Western Utter Pradesh" "Eastern Utter Pradesh" and formation of "Gorkhaland state", is of prime importance.


    Western Utter Pradesh can be a combination of Western Utter Pradesh and Bundel Khand, this size is manageable. Eastern Utter Pradesh is more mangeable on the eastern side and had more economic connection to Bihar. Economics and conditions of the both Eastern Utter Pradesh and Bihar can be managed together.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; February 11th, 2015 at 08:42 PM.

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    This election results was shocking very shocking
    AAP won 67 seats with nearly 55% vote shares and BJP won only 3 with 32.2% vote share while in last general elections (2013) BJP had 33.1 vote share and 32 seats.

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    Let us look at Delhi elections from a different angle. Delhi is like other metro cities and not a state in true sense. Mumbai Mayer and Delhi CM have almost same powers. If we look from this angle, Delhi elections were nothing more than a corporation elections. Too much importance and media hype have made as if heavens have fallen down for BJP. Ideally speaking Delhi should be Union Territory and not the state. If Delhi is granted full statehood, Mumbai , Kolkata and Chennai also deserve the same. With time, all big cities will ask for statehood. I am not sure if its a great idea. Statehood for Delhi should be considered only if entire NCR region is included. Name of new state should be either Indraprastha or Hastinapur.

    RK^2
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  13. #7
    This elections has shown a mirror to one and all... i.e.political master, parties, media, psephologist, TV or social media experts, ..... etc that they all were biased .....they were good only for debate but big zero knowledge of ground realities...
    Poor or rich , every one has only one vote...
    Poor to have EGO and not be taken as granted.....It was Ego fight + v/s -....
    Opinion of colleagues and staff must be respected... ( was not the case of while importing CM candidates)
    - 10 lac suit....
    - "dalal street" v/s basic amenities...
    --- connecting the people: talk what they like
    ---so on...
    जाट के ठाठ हैं .....

  14. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by rskankara View Post
    This elections has shown a mirror to one and all... i.e.political master, parties, media, psephologist, TV or social media experts, ..... etc that they all were biased .....they were good only for debate but big zero knowledge of ground realities...
    Poor or rich , every one has only one vote...
    Poor to have EGO and not be taken as granted.....It was Ego fight + v/s -....
    Opinion of colleagues and staff must be respected... ( was not the case of while importing CM candidates)
    - 10 lac suit....
    - "dalal street" v/s basic amenities...
    --- connecting the people: talk what they like
    ---so on...
    Decision on bedi was unanimous atleast at central level if not amongst local leaders.
    Suit was worth 3 lakhs and it was gifted to the honorable PM.
    Yes i agree be it Modi or Kejriwal, they are given mandate but they can't take people for granted.
    6 months down the line people will question kejriwal in a similar manner as making a promise and fulfilling a promise is all together a different thing.
    I see kejriwal's win a lesson for the center government that they should perform nothing else, PR is not required. But i seriously doubt the promises made by kejriwal are feasible, if he is like that he will blame center government for everything that won't do either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ygulia View Post
    This election has made it clear for BJP that do some work instead of just talking about plans otherwise the result of Delhi can be repeated at national level. The Victory of AAP is superb.
    Loksabha victory was superb too, what happened to BJP will be repeated to AAP in six months down the line. Promises made by AAP not so easy to fulfill with the bugdet Delhi has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prikshit View Post
    Loksabha victory was superb too, what happened to BJP will be repeated to AAP in six months down the line. Promises made by AAP not so easy to fulfill with the bugdet Delhi has.
    Though I am not pro or anti-AAP/BJP/Congress, but I think BJP still will get around 300 seats (including clean sweep in Delhi) if Lok Sabha elections are held at present in country. Assembly polls are different than Lok Sabha polls. Delhiites had made up their mind to give a chance to Arvind Kejriwal as CM. But presently Kejriwal doesn't deserve to be PM of India as he has not delivered still and there is no better choice than Modi yet. Modi has been tested in Gujarat at least for around a decade, while Kejriwal's all political achievements so far are just promises. Sheila Dikshit remained CM of Delhi for 15 years in a row. I don't think in near future any Kejriwal or other can emulate her, though in her last days she lost all her credibility as CM. AAP can emerge as an option of Congress. Pakistan is very happy as AAP hoisted white and green balloons after their historic victory in Delhi and their soft stand on Kashmir. Jat MLAs are around 11-12 mostly times in Delhi assembly, but this time only 7 after 14 Brahmins and 9 Vaishyas. Though AAP's this victory is not any national record as in Sikkim many times contesting political parties have swept away all 32/32 seats.

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    Someone has sent me an sms. Just want to share it with all of you.


    Top excuses from Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal

    Be ready for top excuses from Mr Arvind Kejriwal

    1. Electricity: Central government is not giving us cheap electricity - blame BJP

    2. Schools: Central government is not giving us land to make schools- blame BJP

    3. WiFi: We are not getting security clearance to set up wifi-blame BJP

    4. Women Security: Home guards are not enough to cover entire Delhi, we have asked center for help but center not helping - blame BJP

    5. Water: we are not getting water from Haryana. We have complained but nothing happened- blame BJP

    6. Lokpal: Delhi already has Lokayukta home ministry asking why two parallel laws are required- blame BJP

    7. Jobs: We have asked center to extend their job schemes to Delhi but we are unable to get them to do so- blame BJP

    8. VIP culture: home ministry had thrust house, car, Z grade security on to us what can we do, we have to accept- blame BJP

    9. Price rise: price rise is subject to center policy and we can't do anything. Let's protest by Dharna - blame BJP""


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    Quote Originally Posted by dndeswal View Post
    Someone has sent me an sms. Just want to share it with all of you.


    Top excuses from Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal

    Be ready for top excuses from Mr Arvind Kejriwal

    1. Electricity: Central government is not giving us cheap electricity - blame BJP

    2. Schools: Central government is not giving us land to make schools- blame BJP

    3. WiFi: We are not getting security clearance to set up wifi-blame BJP

    4. Women Security: Home guards are not enough to cover entire Delhi, we have asked center for help but center not helping - blame BJP

    5. Water: we are not getting water from Haryana. We have complained but nothing happened- blame BJP

    6. Lokpal: Delhi already has Lokayukta home ministry asking why two parallel laws are required- blame BJP

    7. Jobs: We have asked center to extend their job schemes to Delhi but we are unable to get them to do so- blame BJP

    8. VIP culture: home ministry had thrust house, car, Z grade security on to us what can we do, we have to accept- blame BJP

    9. Price rise: price rise is subject to center policy and we can't do anything. Let's protest by Dharna - blame BJP""


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    It is too early to believe this type of imputed negatives.... !

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  24. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by rkumar View Post
    Let us look at Delhi elections from a different angle. Delhi is like other metro cities and not a state in true sense. Mumbai Mayer and Delhi CM have almost same powers. If we look from this angle, Delhi elections were nothing more than a corporation elections. Too much importance and media hype have made as if heavens have fallen down for BJP. Ideally speaking Delhi should be Union Territory and not the state. If Delhi is granted full statehood, Mumbai , Kolkata and Chennai also deserve the same. With time, all big cities will ask for statehood. I am not sure if its a great idea. Statehood for Delhi should be considered only if entire NCR region is included. Name of new state should be either Indraprastha or Hastinapur. RK^2
    Delhi is turning into slum city due to bad policies. How do u think a combined state of NCR can be managed together?

  25. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by dndeswal View Post
    Someone has sent me an sms. Just want to share it with all of you.


    Top excuses from Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal

    Be ready for top excuses from Mr Arvind Kejriwal

    1. Electricity: Central government is not giving us cheap electricity - blame BJP

    2. Schools: Central government is not giving us land to make schools- blame BJP

    3. WiFi: We are not getting security clearance to set up wifi-blame BJP

    4. Women Security: Home guards are not enough to cover entire Delhi, we have asked center for help but center not helping - blame BJP

    5. Water: we are not getting water from Haryana. We have complained but nothing happened- blame BJP

    6. Lokpal: Delhi already has Lokayukta home ministry asking why two parallel laws are required- blame BJP

    7. Jobs: We have asked center to extend their job schemes to Delhi but we are unable to get them to do so- blame BJP

    8. VIP culture: home ministry had thrust house, car, Z grade security on to us what can we do, we have to accept- blame BJP

    9. Price rise: price rise is subject to center policy and we can't do anything. Let's protest by Dharna - blame BJP""


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    Hello Uncle ji

    It could be happened


    Did you get any SMS about BJP Excuse?


    1. About Price Rise
    2. About Black Money
    3. Ganga Cleaning
    4. Bullet Train
    5. Corruption
    6. Woman security


    If you have please share it
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    आम आदमी पार्टी (आप) के संयोजक अरविंद केजरीवाल मुख्यमंत्री पद की शपथ लेने से पहले ही एक्शन में आ गए हैं। इससे अधिकारी दहशत में हैं। उन्हें नजर आने लगा है कि अब लेटलतीफी नहीं चलेगी और काम करके दिखाना होगा। केजरीवाल ने बुधवार को मुख्य सचिव दीपक मोहन स्पोलिया को तलब कर उन्हें अपना घोषणा पत्र सौंपा और 19 फरवरी तक इस पर एक्शन प्लान तैयार करने का निर्देश दिया। वहीं, भावी मुख्यमंत्री की हैसियत से केंद्र सरकार के प्रमुख मंत्रियों से मिलने पहुंचे अरविंद केजरीवाल ने उनके समक्ष दिल्ली के मुद्दे भी रख दिए।
    आपको बता दें कि अरविंद केजरीवाल ने अपने चुनाव घोषणापत्र में 70 बिंदुओं का जिक्र किया था। ये सभी मुद्दे दिल्ली के विकास से जुड़े हैं। केजरीवाल चाहते हैं कि जो मुद्दे दिल्ली सरकार के स्तर के नहीं हैं उनके बारे में अभी से केंद्र सरकार के सामने बात रखी जाए। यही कारण है कि अभी तक केजरीवाल ने मुख्यमंत्री पद की शपथ भी नहीं ली है और केंद्र सरकार से संबंधित प्रमुख मुद्दों पर उन्होंने बात शुरू कर दी है। दिल्ली के लोगों की बात करें तो आप की सरकार के आने से दिल्ली की जनता बहुत उत्साहित है, मगर जनता में धैर्य भी देखा जा रहा है। लोग समझने लगे हैं कि केजरीवाल के पास जादू की छड़ी नहीं है कि एकाएक सभी चीजें ठीक हो जाएंगी।
    घोषणापत्र के सभी 70 बिन्दू महत्वपूर्ण
    आप की नीतिगत मामलों की बात करें तो पार्टी के लिए घोषणापत्र के सभी 70 बिंदू महत्वपूर्ण हैं। मगर केजरीवाल का पहला लक्ष्य भ्रष्टाचार को दूर करना है। दूसरा अनधिकृत कॉलोनियों का विकास कराना और तीसरा सस्ती बिजली एवं पानी उपलब्ध कराना है। इसके अलावा सब्जी व खाने पीने की वस्तुओं के दामों पर लगाम लगाने के लिए भी पहले चरण में काम होने जा रहा है।
    आप की जीत से बिजली कंपनियों में घबराहट
    दिल्ली के उपभोक्ताओं को सस्ती बिजली उपलब्ध कराने का वादा करने वाली आप को यहां के मतदाताओं ने प्रचंड बहुमत दिया है। इससे उन्हें सस्ती बिजली मिलने की उम्मीद तो है लेकिन उनके घरों तक बिजली पहुंचाने वाली कंपनियों में खलबली मच गई है। उन्हें यह डर सताने लगा है कि मुख्यमंत्री पद की शपथ लेने के बाद अरविंद केजरीवाल उनके खातों की जांच कराने के मामले को आगे बढ़ाने की दिशा में काम करेंगे। इसके साथ ही दिल्ली में बिजली की दरें भी नहीं बढ़ेगी।
    राजधानी में बिजली वितरण करने वाली कंपनियां (डिस्कॉम) अरविंद केजरीवाल के निशाने पर हैं। वह उन पर अनियमितता का आरोप लगाते रहे हैं और पिछली बार मुख्यमंत्री बनने पर उनके खातों की महालेखा परीक्षक एवं नियंत्रक (कैग) से जांच कराने का निर्देश भी दिया था, लेकिन इसमें ज्यादा प्रगति नहीं हुई है। इस बारे में कैग ने दिल्ली हाई कोर्ट से शिकायत भी की थी कि बिजली कंपनियां ऑडिट में सहयोग नहीं कर रही हैं। आप नेताओं ने इस बार भी चुनाव प्रचार में बिजली कंपनियों पर निशाना साधा था। उनका कहना था कि दिसंबर, 2013 में आप की सरकार ने टाटा पावर दिल्ली डिस्ट्रीब्यूशन लिमिटेड और बीएसईएस की दोनों बिजली वितरण कंपनियों की जांच का आदेश दिया था, लेकिन बाद में इस आदेश को ठंडे बस्ते में डाल दिया। यदि उनकी सरकार बनी तो वह जांच को आगे बढ़ाएंगे। हालांकि, बीएसईएस का कहना है कि बिजली कंपनियों के खातों की जांच का काम प्रगति पर है और वे पूरा सहयोग कर रहे हैं। बीएसईएस ने आप की जीत पर बधाई देते हुए दिल्ली सरकार के साथ मिलकर काम करने की बात कही है। कंपनी का कहना है कि गर्मी में मांग बढ़ने पर उपभोक्ताओं को बिना किसी परेशानी के बिजली उपलब्ध कराने को तैयार है।

  28. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Delhi is turning into slum city due to bad policies. How do u think a combined state of NCR can be managed together?
    Would you elaborate your idea of a 'combined state of NCR'.

    Which state do you think around Delhi [UP, Haryana or Rajasthan who fall in NCR region with Delhi UT] is ready to merge their territorial possessions with proposed Delhi state of your dreams.
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  29. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    Would you elaborate your idea of a 'combined state of NCR'.

    Which state do you think around Delhi [UP, Haryana or Rajasthan who fall in NCR region with Delhi UT] is ready to merge their territorial possessions with proposed Delhi state of your dreams.
    Please look at the statement to whom i replied.

    My reply was in connection to the suggestion that NCR region+ Delhi can be combined into one state.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; February 12th, 2015 at 01:35 PM.

  30. #18
    Delhi win by a new party should be seen more as loss of BJP primarily due to wrong ATTITUDE of coterie of Modi esp Amit Shah and his role.

    Overlooking of OTHER contenders for CM-ship and promoting only their Caste candidate IPS Bedi will have dangerous repercussions in future as NOW those OTHER will share "malai" alongwith Amit Shah & Coterie. Means more loss to General Public.

    These OTHERs' are those guys who are having Congress culture in their blood. Highly Dangerous Guys.

    Nearness of Brahmins to BJP and promoting these guys esp in Recruitment Sector Like DOPT will make BJP totally a Congress party and will be root cause of "FALL OF BJP".

    Reason of wipe out of BJP party in these elections of delhi is IGNORING Central Government/Banks/ PSUs Employees who put HUGE IMPACT in such URBAN elections.
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  31. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Please look at the statement to whom i replied.

    My reply was in connection to the suggestion that NCR region+ Delhi can be combined into one state.
    NCR region is a vast connotation which covers many districts of Haryana, area upto Alwar of Rajasthan and Big chunk of western U.P as well as UT region covered under Delhi.

    That is why I asked from you, would NCR region states allow to create such type of utopian state carved out of their own state territories.

    To me it seems impossible to be thought of as a practical idea !!!
    Last edited by DrRajpalSingh; February 12th, 2015 at 02:19 PM.
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  32. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    NCR region is a vast connotation which covers many districts of Haryana, area upto Alwar of Rajasthan and Big chunk of western U.P as well as UT region covered under Delhi.

    That is why I asked from you, would NCR region states allow to create such type of utopian state carved out of their own state territories.

    To me it seems impossible to be thought of as a practical idea !!!

    Yes, It is not a practical idea.

    There is a need to change the parliamentary structure and have more educated people in parliaments. People with just not degrees but with a proper vision, otherwise there is a possibility of India also having its own "Arab spring" concept unrest in near future.

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