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Thread: Why Jat Politics is at Cross Roads

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Fateh View Post
    Brother, I mean to say that we all know the reality about our community, you know batter, brother due to our wrong traits, we gone down so much that all most all communities have gone above us
    This is a qualified statement as it is one of the perceptions held by some people but reality is Jats are in many fields doing fine and are second to none. Admittedly much more is needed to further assimilate all Jats in enjoying fruits of development and progress. How, none seems to have concrete plan, programme or will to implement to achieve this goal..
    History is best when created, better when re-constructed and worst when invented.

  2. #22
    Concrete plans are there, but jats donot listen to jat fellow, I give you three points only if jats take care of these only than situation will improve, learn to talk/behave, leave laziness and cooperate with jat fellows/unity among the community.Rajpal we should be practical, see reality and write truth.

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  4. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Fateh View Post
    Concrete plans are there, but jats donot listen to jat fellow, I give you three points only if jats take care of these only than situation will improve, learn to talk/behave, leave laziness and cooperate with jat fellows/unity among the community.Rajpal we should be practical, see reality and write truth.

    No one is active to get these things taken with the Community people. These three characteristics are not exclusive among Jats. And even if we accept these for arguments shake, the truth to be recorded is that there is no real ground work organisation or association among the Jats active to improve their social status or to teach these things and many more that are required to improve their lot. Could anyone contradict this position of idealism only and no ground work as was done by many Jat social and public figures in the last century like Swami Keshwanand, Swami Omanand Saraswati, Bhagat Phul Singh, Chaudhary Chhoturam and many more !
    Last edited by DrRajpalSingh; June 15th, 2015 at 07:41 PM.
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  6. #24
    Respected Sir,
    In the present days there is urgent requirement to review the present position of jats in all sphare of life. On the political front, it is very difficult to collect all jats under a single umbrella and second there is lack or we can say no leather in jats who thinks community first. But I thinks in the present time of globalization & professionalism , anybody need not to look towards a leader who guide them for their betterment. We can learn leason from other communities like refugees, after partition they have lost almost everything but in the present time everyone is well settled without any govt help, But SC/ST are still backward although they are taking benefits of the reservation policy from last 50 years.

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  8. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    No one is active to get these things taken with the Community people. These three characteristics are not exclusive among Jats. And even if we accept these for arguments shake, the truth to be recorded is that there is no real ground work organisation or association among the Jats active to improve their social status or to teach these things and many more that are required to improve their lot. Could anyone contradict this position of idealism only and no ground work as was done by many Jat social and public figures in the last century like Swami Keshwanand, Swami Omanand Saraswati, Bhagat Phul Singh, Chaudhary Chhoturam and many more !
    Brother, some extent I agree with you, but dear, many people tried and failed to unit the community, thus no new person/organisation dare to initiate such initiative, you take example of jatland where you are one of the leader, have you achieved unity, discipline and usefulness to the community, secondly why cannot you start such efforts you are suitably placed.

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  10. #26
    Ek movie ka dialogue hai .......if there is any problem so there would definitely be a solution , if there is not a solution then this must not be a problem .

    Did we ever give it a thought ......may be Unity is not the problem .

    Only my opinion Jaton mei sarre hi Chaudhary hai kaun kiski manega take example of house ghar par bhi chota - bada kar ke zaroor man ya manwa lete hai else sab apni hi chalate hai .

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  12. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Fateh View Post
    Brother, some extent I agree with you, but dear, many people tried and failed to unit the community, thus no new person/organisation dare to initiate such initiative, you take example of jatland where you are one of the leader, have you achieved unity, discipline and usefulness to the community, secondly why cannot you start such efforts you are suitably placed.
    Thank you sir! Your experience and social circle in field of activities is greater and we would be happy to follow your commands.
    History is best when created, better when re-constructed and worst when invented.

  13. #28
    अशिक्षित, कमजोर और निर्बल समाज़ /वर्ग अपने अस्तित्व और अस्मिता की पूँजी को बचाए रखने की जद्दोजहद में एकजुट होकर किसी भी नायक के पीछे हो लेता है....पर समय के साथ जब जैसे ही सामर्थ और बल मिलता है तो अस्तित्व और अस्मिता की लड़ाई पीछे रह जाती है और स्वार्थ, अहं का टकराव से एकता खंडित हो जाती है...... पर यदि सभी लोग अपने तरीक़े से और अपने स्तर पर समाज़ की तरक्की और भलाई के लिए अपने जन्म अथवा कर्म भूमि में काम करने को आगे आए, तो इससे समाज़ में जागरूकता और भाईचारे की मूलभूत भावना का विकास होगा और तद्परान्त एक अच्छा राजनैतिक नेतृत्व भी अवश्य मिलेगा...........
    जाट के ठाठ हैं .....

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  15. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by drrajpalsingh View Post
    thank you sir! Your experience and social circle in field of activities is greater and we would be happy to follow your commands.

    thanks brother

  16. #30
    पता नहीं मेरा बड़े लोगो के बीच में बोलना कितना सही है। फ़िर भी मैं यही कहूँगा कि आज जाट राजनीति की जो हालत है उसकी वज़ह भी यह राजनीति ही है जो हम सबके अन्दर हिलोरे मार रही है।

    इस राजनीति में हमनें कुनबे बिखरते देखे है। छोटा सा उदाहरण हमें देखने को मिलता है जब गावों में प्रधानी के चुनाव होते है। दरअसल इस राजनीतिक शक्ति की चाह में कब कौम के हित पीछे छूट गए पता ही नहीं चला।

    छोटे से राजनैतिक फायदे के लिए कब अपने पराये हो जाते है इसका गुमान ही नहीं होता।

    हर जाट अपनी नज़रो में सिकंदर है। अगर दो पैसे आपके हाथ पल्ले है तो कोई किसी के पीछे चलने को तैयार नहीं। खुद के राजनीतिक स्वार्थ इस कदर हावी है कि हर कोई नेता बनने को बेताब है।

    कभी गावों में जाटो की शान होने वाला भाईचारा अब राजनीति की भेट चढ़ चुका है। किसी को प्रधानी, किसी को चेयरमैनी चाहिए, लेकिन इससे जाटो का क्या भला होगा ये कोई नहीं सोचना चाहता।

    अब जाटो में भी बनिया सोच वाले लोगो की तादाद बढ़ रही है। जो हर चीज़ में अपना फायदा तो देखते है। लेकिन जब कौम के लिए कुछ करने की बारी आती है तो कन्नी काट जाते है। जाट होने का दंभ केवल वोट लेने तक ही सीमित है। उसके बाद वही बनिया सोच हावी हो जाती है। जैसे तैसे करके खुद की सामाजिक हैसियत बढ़ जाये इतना काफी है।

    जाटो में नेताओ की तो कमी अभी भी नहीं है। बस कमी है तो उस सोच की जिसमे कौम के लिए कुछ कर गुजरने का जज़्बा हो। यह राजनीति इस कदर हावी है कि एक जगह जाटो को दंगो में धकेला जाता है तो हमारे जाट नेता अपना वोट बैंक बचाने के चक्कर में हम जाटो से दूरी बना लेते है।

    यह विडम्बना है कि जिन जाटों की नेतृत्व क्षमता संदेह से परे है वही अपनों के बीच में एक नेतृत्वकर्ता ढूँढने में विफल है।

    जब तक हमारे जाट नेता छोटे छोटे फायदों को दरकिनार करके समग्र रूप से जाट हितो के दिशा में नहीं सोचते तब तक जाट राजनीति की दशा यही रहने वाली है। हाँ भविष्य में और बदतर हो जाये तो कोई आश्चर्य नहीं होना चाहिए।
    Last edited by ayushkadyan; July 8th, 2015 at 06:57 PM.
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  18. #31

    Jat's obc issue

    Jat community should keep itself away from patel+gujar agitation because it will defame jats also being part of disruptive actions.
    Jats should better call a mahapanchyat of all jat maha sabha and chalk out programme to be one for any issue and demonstrate peacefully not indulge in any blockage programme as public suffers.if public react against you then you can not suceed.

  19. #32
    आज के राजनैतिक परिदृश्य में आरक्षण दूर की कौड़ी दिखाई देती है.... पर पटेलों के फिर से मुद्दे को गरमाया है... अगर अभी सभी और से आवाज उठे तो, संभावना है कि सरकार पूरे आरक्षण के फिर से देखने की सोच सकती है |
    जाट के ठाठ हैं .....

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