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    Jats and Buddhism

    Jats have not stuck to any particular religion in past. They are found among Jainism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Muslim, and Christian. Any religion, which preached oneness of God and condemned superstitions and idol worship easily appealed to and was adopted by Jats in large numbers at different times.

    When Vedic Hinduism gave place to Pauranic idol worship religion began to be used by priests as a means of livelihood; superstitious and awe inspiring beliefs tales and rituals, were introduced in religion to frighten people into giving offerings to idols and priests who became self appointed agents of God; non Brahmins were debarred from studying Sanskrit and religious books to make them, easily exploitable and ignorant. Jats became Buddhists and remained so long after other people in India went back to Brahmanism consequent to the decline of Buddhism.

    This tread is started to find the roots of Jats and Jat history in the Buddhism and Buddhist traditions continued till date in Jats.
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    What is Buddhism

    Buddhism is a nontheistic religion that encompasses a variety of traditions, beliefs and practices largely based on teachings attributed to Siddhartha Gautama, commonly known as the Buddha ("the awakened one"). According to Buddhist tradition, the Buddha lived and taught in the eastern part of the Indian subcontinent sometime between the 6th and 4th centuries BCE. He is recognized by Buddhists as an awakened or enlightened teacher who shared his insights to help sentient beings end their suffering through the elimination of ignorance and craving. Buddhists believe that this is accomplished through direct understanding and the perception of dependent origination and the Four Noble Truths. The ultimate goal of Buddhism is the attainment of the sublime state of Nirvana, by practicing the Noble Eightfold Path (also known as the Middle Way), thus escaping what is seen as a cycle of suffering and rebirth.

    Two major extant branches of Buddhism are generally recognized: Theravada ("The School of the Elders") and Mahayana ("The Great Vehicle"). Theravada has a widespread following in Sri Lanka and Southeast Asia (Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Myanmar etc.). Mahayana is found throughout East Asia (China, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Singapore, Taiwan etc.) and includes the traditions of Pure Land, Zen, Nichiren Buddhism, Tibetan Buddhism, Shingon, and Tiantai (Tendai). In some classifications, Vajrayana—practiced mainly in Tibet and Mongolia, and adjacent parts of China and Russia—is recognized as a third branch, with a body of teachings attributed to Indian siddhas, while others classify it as a part of Mahayana.
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    Buddha's enlightenment

    Gautama Buddha was determined to complete his spiritual quest. At the age of 35, he famously sat in meditation under a sacred fig tree known as the Bodhi tree in the town of Bodh Gaya, India, and vowed not to rise before achieving enlightenment. After many days, he finally destroyed the fetters of his mind, thereby liberating himself from the cycle of suffering and rebirth, and arose as a fully enlightened being (Skt. samyaksaṃbuddha). Soon thereafter, he attracted a band of followers and instituted a monastic order. Now, as the Buddha, he spent the rest of his life teaching the path of awakening he had discovered, traveling throughout the northeastern part of the Indian subcontinent, and died at the age of 80 (483 BCE) in Kushinagar, India. The south branch of the original fig tree available only in Anuradhapura Sri Lanka is known as Jaya Sri Maha Bodhi.
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    Kushinagar (कुशीनगर) or Kusinagar or Kusinara is a town and district in Uttar Pradesh near border of Nepal. It is an important Buddhist pilgrimage site, where Gautama Buddha attained nirvana.

    It is 51 kms from Gorakhpur (Uttar Pradesh) near Bihar Border.

    In ancient times, it was known as Kushavati (Jatakas). It finds mention in epic Ramayana as the city of Kusha the son of Rama, the famous king of Ayodhya. Kushinagar was a celebrated center of the Malla kingdom of ancient India.

    It is to be noted that the Malli or Malla are still an important Jat clan. It is this clan that gave name to Malwa and Multan.

    You can see more at -

    http://www.jatland.com/home/Malla

    http://www.jatland.com/home/Malli
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    Something more that need to be looked into regarding Malla Jatts. See also the Malla relationship to Licchavi, again a south Indian group with a similar name Ezhavas also seem to have some genetic relationship to Punjabi R1a1a Jatts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malla_%28India%29

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licchavi_%28kingdom%29

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licchavi_%28clan%29

    Another thing I notice is that Gupta Banya etc may have a legitimate right to the Gupta Empire history. Though Bains Jatts are R2, I have noticed that a Gupta Banya is also R2, both could be related, and R2 is also found among Brahmins and others, the age of the relationship can be determined with in depth Y-Dna Sequencing.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=0
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulgill View Post
    Something more that need to be looked into regarding Malla Jatts. See also the Malla relationship to Licchavi, again a south Indian group with a similar name Ezhavas also seem to have some genetic relationship to Punjabi R1a1a Jatts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malla_%28India%29

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licchavi_%28kingdom%29

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licchavi_%28clan%29

    Another thing I notice is that Gupta Banya etc may have a legitimate right to the Gupta Empire history. Though Bains Jatts are R2, I have noticed that a Gupta Banya is also R2, both could be related, and R2 is also found among Brahmins and others, the age of the relationship can be determined with in depth Y-Dna Sequencing.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=0
    Could not understand your logic here..what teh bains jatt has tod o with gupta empire..guptas were "dharan" gotra ..it is harshawardhan who is supposed to be of Bains gotra
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulgill View Post
    Something more that need to be looked into regarding Malla Jatts. See also the Malla relationship to Licchavi, again a south Indian group with a similar name Ezhavas also seem to have some genetic relationship to Punjabi R1a1a Jatts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malla_%28India%29

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licchavi_%28kingdom%29

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licchavi_%28clan%29

    Another thing I notice is that Gupta Banya etc may have a legitimate right to the Gupta Empire history. Though Bains Jatts are R2, I have noticed that a Gupta Banya is also R2, both could be related, and R2 is also found among Brahmins and others, the age of the relationship can be determined with in depth Y-Dna Sequencing.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=0
    Gill sahab!..i guess you are going too fast..

    1. Firstly, until you have 90% accuracy with 10 samples you can not declare a clan as R1a1a, J2 or whatever...in all the samples i found on links, we have just 1 sample of a clan....so there is no ample proof to declare a clan of any haplogroup.........may be we need to wait to come at conclusion..or you can share any data where more than 5 samples of a clan were tested and were found same...

    2. we need to figure to whom we are closets too...gujjars, rajputs, brahmins....and how differnt clans of jatts are related...

    3. Secondly, we need to figure how can we discriminate jatts from other north indian population based on haplogroup...if it is same with other north indian population then there is no point of disucssing history with DNA

    4. I guess data is too short to come at any conclusion at this point.......we can just guess..............................
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    Quote Originally Posted by prashantacmet View Post
    Gill sahab!..i guess you are going too fast..

    1. Firstly, until you have 90% accuracy with 10 samples you can not declare a clan as R1a1a, J2 or whatever...in all the samples i found on links, we have just 1 sample of a clan....so there is no ample proof to declare a clan of any haplogroup.........may be we need to wait to come at conclusion..or you can share any data where more than 5 samples of a clan were tested and were found same...

    2. we need to figure to whom we are closets too...gujjars, rajputs, brahmins....and how differnt clans of jatts are related...

    3. Secondly, we need to figure how can we discriminate jatts from other north indian population based on haplogroup...if it is same with other north indian population then there is no point of disucssing history with DNA

    4. I guess data is too short to come at any conclusion at this point.......we can just guess..............................

    So now you understand why I am asking Jatts to test their Y-Dna, more samples, greater the accuracy of connection. Sidhu and Brar both Ra1a1a, so you can say they are related, Sandhu and Sandher both R1a1a, see the similarity in the name and the bloodline. Based on the current data one can only reach such conclusion.

    Sandhu Jatt H1a, unlikely, as their are Sandhu Chamars ,and Chamars are mainly H1a, also this person have a Polish name too, so he could be a Gypsy, Gypsy are also H1a.

    So many gotras claim their origin from some other, usually a famous gotra, this relationship can easily be proven or unproven through Y-dna test.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=0

    On that sheet line 67, you see a Dixit Brahman Bihar, India (Z94/L342+ L657+ Y9+ Y7- Y2351+ Y2353+ Y2392+)

    Line 209 Jatt Muslim Pansota, Toba Tek Singh, possibly Hoshiarpur (Z94+ L657+Y9+ Y7+) (Bhatti maternal)

    These two have a common ancestor Y9, even when one is a Brahmin and the other one is a Jatt, children of the same father Y9, after that one is Y7- and the other one is Y7+, cousins now. This Jatt is related to this Brahmin around R-Y9V4070/Y9 formed 3600 ybp, TMRCA 3600 ybp, see http://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y9/

    Also see http://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y7/, R-Y7V4155/Y7 formed 3600 ybp, TMRCA 3100 ybp.

    But these R1a>>Y7 Jatts are related to other J2 Jatts only about 45000 ybp, and to L-M357 Jatts about 44000 ybp.

    One thing to keep in mind is, that all Jatts are not the children of one ancestors but various tribes, that came to be known as Jatts later on sometime, and that time line can be determined like in the example above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulgill View Post
    So now you understand why I am asking Jatts to test their Y-Dna, more samples, greater the accuracy of connection. Sidhu and Brar both Ra1a1a, so you can say they are related, Sandhu and Sandher both R1a1a, see the similarity in the name and the bloodline. Based on the current data one can only reach such conclusion.

    Sandhu Jatt H1a, unlikely, as their are Sandhu Chamars ,and Chamars are mainly H1a, also this person have a Polish name too, so he could be a Gypsy, Gypsy are also H1a.

    So many gotras claim their origin from some other, usually a famous gotra, this relationship can easily be proven or unproven through Y-dna test.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=0

    On that sheet line 67, you see a Dixit Brahman Bihar, India (Z94/L342+ L657+ Y9+ Y7- Y2351+ Y2353+ Y2392+)

    Line 209 Jatt Muslim Pansota, Toba Tek Singh, possibly Hoshiarpur (Z94+ L657+Y9+ Y7+) (Bhatti maternal)

    These two have a common ancestor Y9, even when one is a Brahmin and the other one is a Jatt, children of the same father Y9, after that one is Y7- and the other one is Y7+, cousins now. This Jatt is related to this Brahmin around R-Y9V4070/Y9 formed 3600 ybp, TMRCA 3600 ybp, see http://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y9/

    Also see http://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y7/, R-Y7V4155/Y7 formed 3600 ybp, TMRCA 3100 ybp.

    But these R1a>>Y7 Jatts are related to other J2 Jatts only about 45000 ybp, and to L-M357 Jatts about 44000 ybp.

    One thing to keep in mind is, that all Jatts are not the children of one ancestors but various tribes, that came to be known as Jatts later on sometime, and that time line can be determined like in the example above.
    Now Narender kharb ji has to provide his opinion on this.....Narender ji has a theory that all jatts have a common ancestor...

    By the way, what do you say about haplogroup Q1a...?...... A very prominent clan of hindu jatt sample has this result
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    Now Narender kharb ji has to provide his opinion on this.....Narender ji has a theory that all jatts have a common ancestor...

    By the way, what do you say about haplogroup Q1a...?...... A very prominent clan of hindu jatt sample has this result
    Please read the comments too. Are you pointing at Q1a Malik? Malik is not a gotra but a designation.

    http://dienekes.blogspot.ca/2014/08/...rom-china.html

    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml

    Q1a does not mean anything any more, You will need to know the node defining SNP to determine which branch we are discussing here. http://www.yfull.com/tree/Q/

    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...a%C3%AAdhya%29


    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0071390

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    Jatila Sabha and Buddha

    There is one other thread in History section where it is being discussed if Buddha was Jat? It is interesting to know that in past and present also the Rulers and the saints never disclosed their castes. Clan was obligatory during those days because in marriage ceremonies entire family tree was to be narratedby the priest. This still continues. Clan was important. That we know from Ramayana and Mahabharata. But there is no mention of their caste. We can only find which clans joined Buddhism. The distribution of Buddhism shows that it spread mainly in the areas dominated by Jats. The rulers who supported and patronized Buddhism were of the clans which are now found in Jats.

    It is interesting to know that the first preaching of Buddha about Buddhism was to three people called trijatas or Jatilas. Initially they opposed the concepts and faiths of Buddha but later they became his followers and helped in spreading his new faith. Bharhut Inscriptions tell us about Jatila Sabha:

    Jatila Sabha - This sculpture is unfortunately broken, which is the more to be regretted as the scene would have been one of the most interesting subjects of the whole series. The only portions now remaining are a tree with rocks, and half of the head and upper part of the body of a man. But there can be little doubt that the original scene represented the " Assembly of the Jatilians," Jatila sabha, who were the followers of Uruvilva Kasyapa. The Mahawanso states that he had 1,000 disciples, but Spence Hardy gives him only 500 followers. This Kasyapa and his two brothers were fire-worshippers, and as such they are represented both in the Sanchi and in the Gandhara Sculptures. It is, therefore, very unfortunate that this still earlier representation of the Assembly of the Jatilian fire-worsliippers should have been so seriously mutilated. The name is said to have been derived from jatan assa attithi, "he who has " a top-knot of matted hair." This seems to be the peculiar headdress of the fireworshippers in all these sculptures. It is curious, and perhaps not accidental, that the present peculiar cap of the Parsis has precisely the same shape and backward slope as the matted hair of these fire-worshippers of ancient India. [Ref: A. Cunninghan:The stūpa of Bharhut: a Buddhist monument ornamented with numerous sculptures. pp.93-94]

    Note that Jatila is certainly related with the Jat. As we find Nagas were mentioned as Nagil in Buddhist literature. Nagil clan is in Jats. It is unfortunate that Jat is always translated as man with - a top-knot of matted hair
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulgill View Post
    Please read the comments too. Are you pointing at Q1a Malik? Malik is not a gotra but a designation.

    http://dienekes.blogspot.ca/2014/08/...rom-china.html

    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml

    Q1a does not mean anything any more, You will need to know the node defining SNP to determine which branch we are discussing here. http://www.yfull.com/tree/Q/

    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...a%C3%AAdhya%29


    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0071390
    Gill, I know it well that malik is a designation, among jatt their clan is "gathwala". Apart from jat, this title is sued by few muslims and Punjabi (not jatt). But as this malik is from Haryana and tis comes in list with jatt, I thought he is a jat.......are you sure he is not a jat?...anyway, as data is not proper for malik a syou said..so no point to discuss it further... By the way, I am yet a nave to understand this family tree and DNA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prashantacmet View Post
    Gill, I know it well that malik is a designation, among jatt their clan is "gathwala". Apart from jat, this title is sued by few muslims and Punjabi (not jatt). But as this malik is from Haryana and tis comes in list with jatt, I thought he is a jat.......are you sure he is not a jat?...anyway, as data is not proper for malik a syou said..so no point to discuss it further... By the way, I am yet a nave to understand this family tree and DNA.
    Let us discuss it here http://www.jatland.com/forums/showth...estors-of-Jats

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    Fa-Hien's Journey to India

    Faxian (337 – c. 422 CE) was a Chinese Buddhist monk who travelled by foot all the way from China to India, visiting many sacred Buddhist sites in what are now Xinjiang, China, Pakistan, India, Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka and between 399 and 412 to acquire Buddhist scriptures. Antiquated transliterations of his name include Fa-Hien and Fa-hsien.

    We will try to find out if there is any correlation between Buddhism and Jats at that period of time.

    His surname, they tell us, was Kung, and he was a native of Wu-yang in P’ing-Yang, which is still the name of a large department in Shan-hsi.

    Now we know that Kang is a Jat clan. There is need to search relation of Kang people with the ancestors of Faxian.
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    Use of appellation of Shih

    In the history of Chauhans and in records of Bards I found that the Raos and Rajas used title Shih after the names like Ratan Shih or Ratansi. At much later date Singh was started in its place. I am studying right now Buddhist records in which Fahian is recorded as Shih Fahian.

    A Record of Buddhistic Kingdoms/Introduction by James Legge tells us that - Fa-hien was his clerical name, and means “Illustrious in the Law,” or “Illustrious master of the Law.” The Shih which often precedes it is an abbreviation of the name of Buddha as Sakyamuni, “the Sakya, mighty in Love, dwelling in Seclusion and Silence,” and may be taken as equivalent to Buddhist.

    Si-Yu-Ki by S. Beal (p.xvii) tells us that in agreement with early custom, the Chinese mendicant priests who adopted the Buddhist faith changed their names at the time of their leaving their homes the title of Sakyaputra. Fahian , therefore, whose original name was Kung, when he assumed the religious title by which he is known to us , took also the appellation of Shih or the Sakyaputra , the disciple or son of Sakya.
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    Lall Jat clan in China

    According to James Legge[1] Fa-hsien, After travelling for seventeen days, a distance we may calculate of about 1500 le, (the pilgrims) reached the kingdom of Shen-shen, a country rugged and hilly, with a thin and barren soil. An account is given of the kingdom of Shen-shen in the 96th of the Books of the first Han dynasty, down to its becoming a dependency of China, about B.C. 80. Shen-shen has been identified with Lop Nor, into which the Tarim River flows.

    From around 1800 BCE until the 9th century the lake supported a thriving Tocharian culture. Archaeologists have discovered the buried remains of settlements, as well as several of the Tarim mummies, along its ancient shoreline. Former water resources of the Tarim River and Lop Nur nurtured the kingdom of Loulan since the second century BCE, an ancient civilization along the Silk Road, which skirted the lake-filled basin. Loulan became a client-state of the Chinese empire in 55 BCE, renamed Shanshan. Marco Polo in his travels passed through the Lop Desert.[2]

    ऊपरला हिन्द

    दलीप सिंह अहलावत[3] के अनुसार चीन के प्राचीन ग्रन्थों में तुखारिस्तान का नाम ताहिआ लिखा है। ह्यू एन-त्सांग ने इस देश का वर्णन किया है कि इसके उत्तर में दरबन्त (बदख्शां के समीप), दक्षिण में हिन्दूकुश पर्वत, पश्चिम में पर्शिया (ईरान) और पूर्व में पामीर की पर्वतमाला थी। उस समय तुखारिस्तान बौद्धधर्म का महत्त्वपूर्ण केन्द्र था । ऋषिक तुषारों का धर्म बौद्ध और जीवन युद्धमय था।[4]

    ऋषिक-तुषारों ने हूणों को हराकर मंगोलिया की ओर भगा दिया और पूर्व की ओर बहुत बड़े क्षेत्र पर अधिकार कर लिया। उनकी इस विशाल भूमि का नाम सरिन्दिया (Ser-India) पड़ा, जिसको हिन्दी में ऊपरला हिन्द कहा जाता है।[5]

    यह ऊपरला हिन्द पश्चिमी बदख्शां से आरम्भ होकर पूर्व में लोपनोर झील तथा गोबी के मरुस्थल तक विस्तृत था। इस क्षेत्र के नगरों के अवशेष इस समय काशगर, यारकन्द, नीया, खोतन, कुचि आदि में उपलब्ध हुए हैं। इनसे यह भलीभांति प्रमाणित हो जाता है कि राजनैतिक दृष्टि से भारत के अन्तर्गत न होते हुए भी ये सब भारतीय सभ्यता के केन्द्र थे। इस तुखारिस्तान में ऋषिक-तुषारों ने अपने अनेक राज्य कायम किए। आगे चलकर कुषाण वंश के राजाओं ने जिन्हें जीतकर अपने अधीन कर लिया और एक शक्तिशाली व सुविस्तृत साम्राज्य की स्थापना की। पांचवीं सदी तक तुखारिस्तान कुषाणों के शासन में रहा। [6]

    रामायणकाल में ऋषिकों का राज्य था और महाभारत एवं पुराणों के लेख अनुसार ऋषिक व तुषार वंश महाभारतकाल में अपने पूरे वैभव पर थे, ये लोग महाभारत युद्ध में लड़े थे। सम्राट् कनिष्क कुषाणगोत्री जाट के शासनकाल में ऋषिकवंशी महात्मा लल्ल ने इन चन्द्रवंशी ऋषिक व तुषार जाटों के संघों का संगठन कर दिया जिनसे इनका नाम गठवाला पड़ गया। इनका पूज्य पुरुष लल्ल ऋषि था और पदवी मलिक हुई जिससे इनका पूरा नाम लल्ल गठवाला मलिक है। (पूरी जानकारी के लिए देखो तृतीय अध्याय, ऋषिक-तुषार मलिक प्रकरण)।

    चीन के उत्तर में विशाल दीवार बनने के बाद, हूण लोग अब चीन के पश्चिम के उन प्रदेशों में आ बसे थे, जहां पहले ऋषिकों (युइशियों) का निवास था। ये लोग समय-समय पर पश्चिम की ओर से आक्रमण करते रहते थे; जिनका सामना करना चीन के लिए कठिन था। इस दशा में चीन के सम्राट् वू-ती (142-85 ई० पू०) ने अपने सेनापति चाङ्-कियन को 138 ईस्वी पूर्व में हूणों के विरुद्ध सहयोग प्राप्त करने के लिये ऋषिक-तुषारों के पास भेजा। उस समय इन लोगों का शासन तुखारिस्तान पर था। चाङ्-कियन को हूणों ने मार्ग में ही पकड़ लिया और उसे 10 वर्ष तक अपनी कैद में रखा। कैद से छूटकर वह सिर दरिया के दक्षिण में स्थित खोकन्द पहुंचा, और वहां से समरकन्द होता हुआ बल्ख (बैक्ट्रिया) आ गया जो उस समय ऋषिक-तुषारों के शासन में था। चाङ्-कियन ने उनसे हूणों के विरुद्ध सहयोग की याचना की। अतः ऋषिक-तुषारों ने हूणों पर पश्चिम की ओर से पुरजोर आक्रमण आरम्भ कर दिया तथा चीन ने हूणों पर पूर्व की ओर से

    जाट वीरों का इतिहास: दलीप सिंह अहलावत, पृष्ठान्त-328

    दबाव डाला। ये आक्रमण 127 ई० पू० से 119 ई० पू० तक होते रहे। अन्त में हूणों को परास्त करके चीन की पश्चिमी सीमा से उत्तर में मंगोलिया की ओर खदेड़ दिया। चीन-भारत की मैत्री का यह पहला अवसर माना जाता है।[7]

    References

    1. James Legge: A Record of Buddhistic Kingdoms/Chapter 2, fn-1

    2. .M. Dent (1908), "Chapter 36: Of the Town of Lop Of the Desert in its Vicinity - And of the strange Noises heard by those who pass over the latter", The travels of Marco Polo the Venetian, pp. 99101

    3. जाट वीरों का इतिहास: दलीप सिंह अहलावत, पृष्ठ-328,329

    4. मध्य एशिया तथा चीन में भारतीय संस्कृति, पृ० 12, 78-79, 108-109,

    5. मध्य एशिया तथा चीन में भारतीय संस्कृति, पृ० 12, 78-79, 108-109,

    6. जाटों का उत्कर्ष, पृ० 332, लेखक योगेन्द्रपाल शास्त्री।

    7. मध्य एशिया तथा चीन में भारतीय संस्कृति, पृ० 79, लेखक सत्यकेतु विद्यालंकार, जाटों का उत्कर्ष पृ० 332, लेखक योगेन्द्रपाल शास्त्री, जाटवीरों का इतिहास, तृतीय अध्याय, ऋषिक-तुषार प्रकरण।
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    Lall Jat clan in China (contd)

    We find a visible link between ancient Chinese people and Jat clan Lall around Lopnor lake which Fahian has mentioned as Shen-shen. (A Record of Buddhistic Kingdoms/Chapter 2, fn-1)
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    Lall Jat clan in China (contd)

    We find a visible link between ancient Chinese people and Jat clan Lall around Lopnor lake which Fahian has mentioned as Shen-shen. (A Record of Buddhistic Kingdoms/Chapter 2, fn-1)
    Excellent find for which you deserve our thanks.
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    Changal Jat clan

    Changal (चांगल) Chagal (चगल) Chagalaka (चगलक) Chagalaga (चगलग) is Gotra of Jats. Changal (चांगल) gotra Jats are found in Rajasthan, Punjab and Madhya Pradesh. Changal named village is in Sangrur tahsil of Sangrur district in Punjab. Changal is found in Afghanistan. Changala (चांगला) Jat clan is found in Multan.

    Origin

    1. They are said to be descendant of King named Chagalaga (चगलग) who was a feudatory of the Gupta Emperor, Chandragupta II.[1]

    2. The clan may probably get name after Chang'an, an ancient place in China. Chang'an means "Perpetual Peace" in Classical Chinese. During the short-lived Xin dynasty, the city was renamed "Constant Peace" (pinyin: Chng'ān); yet after its fall in AD 23, the old name was restored. By the time of the Ming dynasty, the name was again changed to Xi'an, meaning "Western Peace", which has remained its name to the present day. There is a need to search historical evidence about this fact.

    History

    A maharaja, grandfather of a maharaja whose name in line 2 is illegible and who belonged to the Sanakanika tribe or family, who was a feudatory of Chandragupta I. We find the word Chagala literally meaning 'a hegoat' in the Unadi-sutras of Panini where it is the name of a Rishi. It seems to be a non- Aryan word. The words Chagala, Chagalaka or Chagalaga mean the same. [2]

    James Legge[3] writes that Fa-hien had been living in Ch’ang-gan. Ch’ang-gan is still the name of the principal district (and its city) in the department of Se-gan, Shen-se. It had been the capital of the first empire of Han dynasty (B.C. 202-A.D. 24), as it subsequently was that of Suy dynasty (A.D. 589-618). The empire of the eastern Tsin, towards the close of which Fa-hien lived, had its capital at or near Nan-king, and Ch’ang-gan was the capital of the principal of the three Ts’in kingdoms, which, with many other minor ones, maintained a semi-independence of Tsin, their rulers sometimes even assuming the title of emperor.

    In the Thar Desert areas we find mention of Chamgali Mai (चांगली माई) , who is thought to be a "virgin priestess" from From Baluchi Brohi and a full incarnation of Hinglaj. [4]



    References -

    1. Tej Ram Sharma:Personal and geographical names in the Gupta inscriptions/Names of Feudatory Kings and High Officers,p.46

    2. Tej Ram Sharma: Personal and geographical names in the Gupta inscriptions, By -Tej Ram Sharma 1976, p.47

    3.A Record of Buddhistic Kingdoms/Chapter 1,fn-1

    4. In praise of death: history and poetry in medieval Marwar (South Asia), By Janet Kamphorst, p.238
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    Jat History in Khotan

    Khotan (खोतान) or the oasis town of Hotan was previously known in Chinese as Yutian. Hotan is the capital of Hotan Prefecture, Xinjiang, China.

    Origin of name - Khotan was founded by Kustana son of Ashoka in 250 BC.[1]

    Jat clans originated from Khotan

    Khot

    Kapureya

    Khokhia

    Khokhan

    Nuhwal


    Jat History

    Faxian visited a country called Yu-teen, which is better known as Khoten. The name in Sanskrit is Kustana. (E. H., p. 60). [2]

    In ancient times the Nuhwal Jats ruled over Khotan. According to another legend they are called Nuhwals because they came from the area of Lake Nuh in Khotan Kashgar.[3]

    References -

    1. Jat History Dalip Singh Ahlawat/Chapter IV, pp. 364-365
    2. A Record of Buddhistic Kingdoms/Chapter 2, f.n. 13
    3. Ram Swarup Joon:History of the Jats/Chapter V, p.96
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