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Thread: Heer, Aaheer and the word "Bahari"

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    Heer, Aaheer and the word "Bahari"

    While Heer, Huur, Hur seem to be coming from Huurian kingdom.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurrians

    Where is Aaheer the negated form of Heer, Huur, Hur coming from?

    Any knowledge?
    Last edited by maddhan1979; December 16th, 2015 at 04:43 PM.

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    There is a word Aahur or Ahur it could very well mean negated form of Heer, Huur,Hur.

    It is possible that people who were not living in "Hurrian kingdom" were called "Aheer or Aaheer",,,,so what is the origin of "Ahur or Aahur"?, these could also have been depicted in the language. Anyone out of "Hurrian kingdom" at certain point of time was "Ahur or Aahur",,,which in ancient human settlements could have very well meant India or any other part of the world, etc. So, in that context "Aahuur or Ahur" becomes generic in nature and might reflect "n number of individuals of any origin" who were out of "Huurian origin".

    Ancient migration of people could have been carried in languages in this form.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 20th, 2015 at 06:16 AM.

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    The sound "Huurrr" itself is of interest.

    This sound throughout history has often been used by people who drove hoards horses ( big group of horses )
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 20th, 2015 at 06:22 PM.

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    Word "Bahari"

    There is a word "Bahari", which means "Outsider".

    This word is often used as "Yeh to Bahari log hain"

    Now the point is: this word is a combination of two words " Ba + Hari", Hari is derived from Haar, Heer, Huur .

    All of these words "Heer, Huur, Haar" might hold some ancient roots in languages.

    The opposite word of "Haar, Heer, Huur" can be "Ahuur, Aahuur, Aheer, Aaheer, Aahaar, Ahaar". All of these opposide words could very well mean "People who are not outsiders or people who are local from a local tribe" as "A or AA" is a negated prefix for words.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; December 2nd, 2015 at 10:14 AM.

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    In present day Indian context more than half of India would be "Bahari people", in older times when and if a country called "Bharat" ever existed, the same "Ba+Hari" people are from ancient boundaries of India.

    The word "Bahari" would have been used in different forms in ancient times.
    Last edited by vijay; December 14th, 2015 at 09:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    There is a word "Bahari", which means "Outsider".

    This word is often used as "Yeh to Bahari log hain"

    Now the point is this word is a combination of two words " Ba + Hari", Hari is derived from Haar, Heer, Huur .

    All of these words "Heer, Huur, Haar" might hold some ancient roots in languages.

    The opposite word of "Haar, Heer, Huur" can be "Ahuur, Aahuur, Aheer, Aaheer, Aahaar, Ahaar". All of these opposide words could very well mean "People who are not outsiders or people who are local from a local tribe" as "A or AA" is a negated prefix for words.


    The words "Haar, Heer or Huur" could very well connect with ancient nomadic people or the times when humans started domestication of animals and humans stopped the life of a hunter and gatherer.

    "Haar, Heer, Huur" are the kind of ancient sounds that nomads use to drive animals from place to place for grazing but we must remember we are talking about time period when humans started animal husbandry and stopped being hunter and gatherer of food.
    We are not talking about present day or even few hundred year old people tribe who use to graze animals. In recent history, let us say few hundred years old the work of people who used to graze animals was taken over by different tribes in different cultures.

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    This kingdom has been archaeologically proved and interestingly we have seen connected words like "Heer", "Haar", etc. Often in history civilizations vanished, stopped flourishing,finished abruptly. The populations of these cultures did not finish off but often moved from their ancient cities to newer places. Often the migrations were in big groups as such migration provided means of existence. Therefore the people who moved from such cultures in large groups were recognized by their older identities such as "Heer", "Haar", etc. Then the question arises who would the rest of the people these cultures met were recognized as?
    If there was a big wave of migration of these group of people or these civilizations of ancient times were so big that their identity was known throughout the land, then it is possible that the other people who were not of their own origin were recognized as different people. In Indian context, if there was at any point of time a big migration from "Hurrian" kingdom, then the opposite people of "hurrian" kingdom could have been the local tribes inhabiting India. This definition could be at a broader scale of history, why? because tribes from "Hurrian" kingdom could have taken many waves of migration to come into Indian subcontinent.

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