View Poll Results: Is it right time to form a Pro-Jat Party?

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  • Yes

    8 53.33%
  • No

    4 26.67%
  • National Jat parties are doing good for Jats

    0 0%
  • Regional Dynastic Jat Parties deserve another chance

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Thread: जाट, चौधर और राजनीति!!

  1. #21
    RLD Ajit Singh is not even in discussion in UP, People only talking about BSP BJP.
    AJit singh may lose the traditional assembly - Chhaprauli , baghpat also.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by ayushkadyan View Post
    ऐसा लगता है कि "ज्यादा जोगी मठ उजाड़े" वाली कहावत जाटो को ध्यान में रखकर ही कही गयी थी| जाटो की स्वाभाविक नेतृत्व करने की क्षमता अब उन्ही पर भारी पड़ रही है| सब सेनापति बनना चाहते है सिपाही कोई नहीं| एक ऐसी सेना जिसके एक से ज्यादा सेनापति हो वह भ्रमित हो जाती है| कुछ ऐसा ही हाल जाटो का भी है| सेनापति बहुत है लेकिन चलना किसके पीछे है यह पता नहीं| दिशाहीन सेना नुक्सान ही उठाती है| जो हम देख ही रहे है|
    Ek baat aur bhi hai ki vastav me hamare paas ek achcha neta b nahi hai jo sabhi ko ek saath lekar chal sake. Asli neta tyag me viswas karta hai aur use naam aur chaudhar ke bhook nahi hoti. Desh ki azadi ki ladai me netao ne jindgi laga di, aur keval satta ke bhuke bach gaye. Hume asli jaat beta ki jarurat hai jo raaj karne ki bajay samaj ko ubharne me yogdaan de. Jin logo me credit lene ki hod hoti hai wo hi fut dalte hain. Niswarth bhav se kaam karne wala naam ka bhooka nahi hota.

  3. #23
    Very true, we dont have true leader to follow.So we are following our self b'cos we have to survive first rather than thinking and talking of politics.
    If we follow the existing hollow leaders breed, we would be reduce to nothing.
    We will surivive in the hardest conditions.
    Think of a bigger picture jats are going through one of the worst rough and dry patch. Our image is all time low and disfigured.
    I wish to born & die again as JAT.

    तू छोड़ रहा है तो ख़ता इसमें तेरी क्या,
    हर शख़्स मेरा साथ निभा भी नहीं सकता।


  4. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by ayushkadyan View Post
    जाटों की असली पहचान क्या है? चौधर, मरोड़ या फिर मसखरापन? यहाँ हम जाटों का इतिहास खंगालने के लिए नहीं जा रहे है|मुझे तो यह सवाल बड़ा मुश्किल लगता है| जैसे किसी ने पूछ लिया हो कि प्यार क्या है? अब कोई शाहरुख़ खान की तरह तो जवाब देने से रहा कि प्यार दोस्ती है| ठीक वैसे ही जाट क्या है? तो जवाब होगा चौधराहट|लेकिन ये चौधराहट आजकल दम तोड़ रही है| पीढ़ी दर पीढ़ी जैसे-जैसे खेती की ज़मीन कम हो रही है इस चौधराहट का दायरा सिकुड़ता जा रहा है| वो अकड़, वो मरोड़ जो इस चौधराहट का हिस्सा है| आजकल किसी फैक्ट्री, किसी कंपनी के क्यूबिकल में मेल ड्राफ्ट करते हाथो से निकल रही है| इस चौधराहट को तो सोफिस्टीकेशन का कीड़ा काट चुका है| मुझे भी आइंस्टीन की तरह चौधराहट की नयी थ्योरी खोजने की सूझी है|आखिर यह चौधराहट आती कहाँ से है| राजनीतिक पहुँच से, पैसो से, जमीन से या फिर बदमाशी से (मुज़फ्फरनगर के अनुभव के आधार पर)| जब ये सारी चीज़ें मिल जाती है तो एक दबंग मिश्रण तैयार होता है| जिसे हम चौधराहट का नाम देते है| इसमें अकड़ होती है| एक ठसक होती है जो सामने वाले को अपने से कमतर ही समझती है| बात बात पे ऐंठ जाना इस चौधराहट के सर्व सुलभ लक्षण है| लेकिन आजकल जाटों की चौधर को किसी की नज़र लग गयी है| खेती तो कम हो ही रही थी अब राजनीति भी हाशिये पे पहुँच गयी है| देश के एकमात्र पूर्व जाट प्रधानमंत्री के पुत्र और पौत्र आजकल यूपी की राजनीति में चारो खाने चित्त है वही हरियाणा में पूर्व जाट उपप्रधानमंत्री के पुत्र और पौत्र राजनीति में मरणासन्न है|हालत यह है कि चौधराहट का टोकरा सिर पर लेकर घूमने वाले जाट आजकल आरक्षण के लिए गिडगिडा रहे है| बड़ा सवाल यही है कि एक तरफ तो चौधराहट कायम रखने की चुनौती है| तो क्या आरक्षण जाटों की चौधराहट बचाने में कामयाब होगा? या फिर जाटों की चौधराहट इतिहास बनने वाली है? क्या जाट आरक्षण को चौधराहट बचाने की आख़िरी कोशिश की तरह देखा जाये? इतिहास गवाह है कि बड़े आन्दोलनों में समाज की दिशा बदलने का माद्दा होता है| तो फिर क्या वक्त नहीं आ गया है कि वंशवादी जाट राजनीति से बाहर निकला जाये| जाट आरक्षण आंदोलन में सक्रिय भूमिका निभाने वालो को जाट राजनीति की कमान सौपी जाए?एक पूरी तरह प्रो-जाट राजनीति की नीव रखी जाये| वैसे ही जैसे महारष्ट्र में मराठी मानुष की राजनीति होती है| दूसरी पार्टियों में अपने जाट नेताओं को गिडगिडाने न दिया जाये| अगर हम किंग नहीं बन सकते राजनीति में, तो फिर क्यों न किंग मेकर की भूमिका निभाने के लिए कमर कसी जाये| क्यों न जाट राष्ट्रीय पार्टियों का मोह छोड़ दे| बीजेपी-कांग्रेस का राग अलापना बंद करे| सब जाट इकट्ठे हो, एक हो, खुद की पार्टी खड़ी करें, अपने राजनीतिक स्वार्थ एक तरफ रखे, कौम की तरक्की की सोचे| मुस्लिमो के बजाय दलितों को साथ ले| दलितों के साथ मिलकर देश-प्रदेश की राजनीति को एक नयी दिशा दे?वैसे मुझे यह हकीकत कम एक सपने जैसा ज्यादा लगता है| खुली आँखों का सपना| एक ऐसा सपना जो टूटते हुए तारे को देखकर दुआ मांगने से भी सच नहीं हो पायेगा| आप क्या सोचते है?
    Making a new political party will take time and lot of contemplation. Meanwhile, Jats of UP must not forget humiliation by mulla mulayam party and his goon like Azam whose Buffaloes are more important than The Jats. It's high time not to be lured by opportunist RLD.

  5. #25
    In the wake of the ongoing (Peaceful) Protests by Jats for reservation and associated demands, I am sure this site and other similar Jat centric sites are under heavy scrutiny by the various government agencies. And also Jatland must be under the extra vigilant watchful gaze of a section of the media which can best be described as mischievous and biased against Jats. We as a community have all along been mature and responsible in respecting the law and exercising our rights as defined in the constitution as responsible citizens to protest peacefully and I am sure and confident that my brothers would continue adopting those constitutional and peaceful means to put their points across to the high and mighty sitting in the ivory towers.

    It would not be wrong to say that we Jats are like a rudderless boat in the ocean (lost at sea) with no directional leadership or a shoreline in sight. We are going where the ocean currents take us. We have had able and august Jat leadership in the distant and not so distant past in terms of such towering personalities as Maharaja Suraj Mal, Raja Gokula, Sir Chhotu Ram, Ch. Charan Singh, Ch. Devi Lal, etc. BUT WHAT AFTER THAT? There is no true Jat leadership today. We only have Jat politicians who play the Jat card when the elections are near and then comfortably forget the Jat cause and then we have Jat politicians whose only aim like the other non-Jat politicians is to establish a dynastic rule. In the other fields as well, the only saving grace is a few Jat sportspersons and a filmstar or two here and there.

    A few reasons, few of which may be interconnected that I could gather for this disarray amongst the Jats are as follows:
    1. Lack of unity/cohesion: We are all chaudharies and hence, it is very difficult to accept someone as a leader amongst us. We diverge and disperse as soon as we converge.
    2. Hypersensitive/Hyper-reactive: It is said about our community that we like to swing to the exremes of the emotional quotient pendulum. If we are angry, we get very angry. If we love someone, we love somenone to the extreme by doing anything for him or her, etc, etc.
    3. Hesitant to change/adapt: Though things are changing for the better, we are a little hesitant in adopting newer ways of life, vocations, etc. How many media professionals, fashion designers, etc do we have?
    4. More noise than substance: We make a lot of noise even before we do something. Biggest example of the opposite of this are the Yadavs - they do not make noise, yet they have benefited immensely by silently working towards their goals. If a fellow Jat tries to help us, we announce it to the world, thereby making it difficult for him to support us in future in terms of job/career growth.
    5. Do not possess the habit of pulling up fellow Jats in our career field: Many Jats have been known to not pull up their brothers in their career streams as they feel that their special or exclusive position may be lost if others join them in their career path. This is unlike the Punjabis and others who help their brothers careerwise.
    6. Rigidity: We have to let go the rigidity of opinion and views. We need to take all the good things from around the world and distill and adopt them for the good of ourselves and of the community. Only those who adapt with the times survive, rest perish. As they say, change is the only constant. Being flexible and not having inflated ego always helps to go the long haul.
    7. Stop living in the past: I often come across fellow Jat brothers who keep harping on our rich heritage and history. My question to them is 'What about the present?" what have we as a community done in the present times to build upon the solid foundation given to us in heritage by the tall Jat icons of the past? We need to diligently work towards to building on that foundation ceaselessly.
    8. We need respect and love of the other communities and not fear: A few brothers think that Jats need to be feared. I differ with them in that I believe that instead of fear, it is the respect and love that counts. If we excel in our respective fields and are the best in our career path, whatever it might be -doctors, engineers, lawyers, judges, farmers and play a constructive role in the society, others will hold us (both individually and as a community) in high esteem. This is much better than instilling fear in the hearts of others for Jats. We need to build bridges with the other communities. Most of the Jat leaders and icons of the past from Maharaja Surajmal to Ch. Devi Lal had mass appeal cutting across caste lines. They were champions in building bridges with other communities and working meaningfully towards realizing the achievement of an esteemed position for the community in the eyes of others.
    9. Have faith in yourself as a community: I have come across many fellow Jats who do not have faith in the competency of the community and its members. Why can't there be world class doctors, engineers, lawyers, etc? Belief in self is the first step in the journey towards achieving excellence (both as individuals and as a community).

    To be continued...

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  7. #26
    Thanks. your comments are very nice , Now a day Jat community divided and going to downward, other cast are more powerful because they are unit. You know our young boys are going to gang war. They fight themself, if there power used for Jat community welfare. Now a day no any leader who lead the community proper direction to achieve our goal.

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