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Thread: Which Party will form govt in Uttar Pradesh

  1. #21
    nd this is increasing especially in rural, less educated and so called downtrodden people. Political parties based on samaj ideologies and religious ideologies are the main source of pushing these people into such situation in the name of being downtrodden, being dalit and so on, so forth.

    Reservation in jobs for first generation uneducated people is again becoming a norm which will ruin the entire government system. Education for the first generation educated people must be a means of understanding the life itself, rather than seeking a government job for money extraction through corruption and corrupt processes.

    So, the options for choosing right political parties decreasing for the masses.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    nd this is increasing especially in rural, less educated and so called downtrodden people. Political parties based on samaj ideologies and religious ideologies are the main source of pushing these people into such situation in the name of being downtrodden, being dalit and so on, so forth.

    Reservation in jobs for first generation uneducated people is again becoming a norm which will ruin the entire government system. Education for the first generation educated people must be a means of understanding the life itself, rather than seeking a government job for money extraction through corruption and corrupt processes.

    So, the options for choosing right political parties decreasing for the masses.
    This does not mean that political power must come in the hands of people who address religious ideologies and samaj ideologies or have any past connection with religious lineage.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    This does not mean that political power must come in the hands of people who address religious ideologies and samaj ideologies or have any past connection with religious lineage.


    Parties representing "Samaj" are again representatives of religion in one sense or the other, entire existence of such parties depends on people being downtrodden. If the so called "downtrodden people" get education, parties representing "Samaj" will no longer be able to exist as such parties will loose their votebank.

    Samaj parties are nothing less than sociopoliticalreligious business houses. Which is not good for the society and public at large.

    BJP might be a possibility, if it it clearly , declares its representatives and have a non Baba non religious representation. One can say that in a state like "Haryana", BJP has shown a non Baba non religious representation but again the representation has not been a correct choice and has not been able achieve much, so it is necessary to reconsider the political representation that BJP puts forward in a state like UP.

    On the other side, parties like "AAP", show a non BABA non religious representation but again "AAP", is failing to move ahead and maybe need to restructure and reevaluate its political structure and move ahead.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 27th, 2016 at 10:44 AM.

  4. #24
    BJP Only know how to break Samaj.... Haryana is example ... BJP MP Raj Kumar Saini , Vij there are lot they openly supported 35 community unity against Jats..

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  6. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Parties representing "Samaj" are again representatives of religion in one sense or the other, entire existence of such parties depends on people being downtrodden. If the so called "downtrodden people", get education parties representing "Samaj" will no longer be able to exist as such parties will loose their votebank.

    Samaj parties are nothing less than sociopoliticalreligious business houses. Which is not good for the society and public at large.

    BJP might be a possibility, if it it clearly , declares its representatives and have a non Baba non religious representation. One can say that in a state like "Haryana", BJP has shown a non Baba non religious representation but again the representation has not been a correct choice and has not been able achieve much, so it is necessary to reconsider the political representation that BJP puts forward in a state like UP.

    On the other side, parties like "AAP", show a non BABA non religious representation but again "AAP", is failing to move ahead and maybe need to restructure and reevaluate its political structure and move ahead.

    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Parties representing "Samaj" are again representatives of religion in one sense or the other, entire existence of such parties depends on people being downtrodden. If the so called "downtrodden people", get education parties representing "Samaj" will no longer be able to exist as such parties will loose their votebank.

    Samaj parties are nothing less than sociopoliticalreligious business houses. Which is not good for the society and public at large.

    BJP might be a possibility, if it it clearly , declares its representatives and have a non Baba non religious representation. One can say that in a state like "Haryana", BJP has shown a non Baba non religious representation but again the representation has not been a correct choice and has not been able achieve much, so it is necessary to reconsider the political representation that BJP puts forward in a state like UP.

    On the other side, parties like "AAP", show a non BABA non religious representation but again "AAP", is failing to move ahead and maybe need to restructure and reevaluate its political structure and move ahead.
    It seems that while some parties do talk of word like "Rastra" but they are disconnected with the reality of Utter Pradesh which is not present in cities/business class and priest class of this state. The parties which talk about big words like "Rastra", have not governed for long and take their governance for granted secondly such parties also seem to have a poor choice of ministerial candidate selection till now as shown in Haryana.

    Some parties have come up with good rules like retirement age of politicians, which is a good thought process but such parties fail to recognize that these small good steps might not be enough.

  7. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    It seems that while some parties do talk of word like "Rastra" but they are disconnected with the reality of Utter Pradesh which is not present in cities/business class and priest class of this state. The parties which talk about big words like "Rastra", have not governed for long and take their governance for granted secondly such parties also seem to have a poor choice of ministerial candidate selection till now as shown in Haryana.

    Some parties have come up with good rules like retirement age of politicians, which is a good thought process but such parties fail to recognize that these small good steps might not be enough.

    Retirement age does not mean a person retires from work.

  8. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Retirement age does not mean a person retires from work.
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  10. #28
    Last edited by akshaymalik84; October 25th, 2016 at 04:11 PM.
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  11. #29
    Up does not seem to have any political options, being close to Delhi and being in NCR region, general changes in the economy, land, climate, etc, does not show any good results.
    Three major parties in the state but none of them seem to show substance.

    BJP might be a candidate but, it has not shown its leadership representation. Leader must come from agricultural community background as there are lot of farmer based communities in the state and a major portion of the population comes agricultural background.

    AAP does not seem to show any progress either. Seems like AAP needs to go ahead with its work in UP as well.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 8th, 2016 at 07:24 AM.

  12. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Up does not seem to have any political options, being close to Delhi and being in NCR region, general changes in the economy, land, climate, etc, does not show any good results.
    Three major parties in the state but none of them seem to show substance.

    BJP might be a candidate but, it has not shown its leadership representation. Leader must come from agricultural community background as there are lot of farmer based communities in the state and a major portion of the population comes agricultural background.

    AAP does not seem to show any progress either. Seems like AAP needs to go ahead with its work in UP as well.
    Problem with BJP seems to be that of older thought process, one of the leaders mentioned that "BJP, will ensure that people do not move out of UP for work",,, this was a kind of lame statement. These days people go out for work, where they like.

  13. #31
    Mr. Modi,,,seems to show will, to do some good for the public, so does his policies.

    He is trying to take some good steps.

  14. #32
    Political parties like that of Mr. Modi, need to show clear representation and a more newer representation

  15. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Political parties like that of Mr. Modi, need to show clear representation and a more newer representation
    If political party like that of Mr. Modi does not show a clear cut representation of its leadership for UtterPradesh then it might be difficult for them to get elected in the state.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 18th, 2016 at 06:28 AM.

  16. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Political parties like that of Mr. Modi, need to show clear representation and a more newer representation
    Some parties that associates with words like "Rastra", but major representation of such parties seem to be driven by religious ideologies and religious people.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 20th, 2016 at 05:53 PM.

  17. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Some parties that associates with words like "Rastra", but major representation of such parties seem to be driven by religious ideologies and religious people.

    It is interesting to see, that only one party uses the word 'Rastra'.

    But can such a party bring real change is yet to be seen. The change will come from the party itself, its representation and its thought process.

  18. #36
    UP must not have a chief minister representation from religious and ruler class background

  19. #37
    Educational qualification of the chief ministerial candidate is another important point.

  20. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    It is interesting to see, that only one party uses the word 'Rastra'.

    But can such a party bring real change is yet to be seen. The change will come from the party itself, its representation and its thought process.
    Mr. Modi, has nice thoughts and paths but at this point of time he is dreaming too big things at a fast rate?

    Yes, BJP has come to power after a long time and the Mr. Modi wants to take the country from ground to all the way up.

    A cashless economy at present? hmmm,,,,a good thought, but it seems country needs to slow down.

    Lot of important things to do before a cashless economy.

    Change in currency and the effects of it on the everyday people?, is a good drill.

    These type of drills have happened before as well at the time of other governments.


    There are lot of major changes that the state like that of Utter Pradesh needs to go through and they will not be easy to achieve if everyone is riding big fuel guzzling cars and living in polluted cities/villages and a state without any support for its inhabitants.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; December 14th, 2016 at 07:03 AM.

  21. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Mr. Modi, has nice thoughts and paths but at this point he is dreaming too big things at a fast rate? Yes, BJP has come to power after a long time and the Mr. Modi wants to take the country from ground to all the way up.

    A cashless economy at present? hmmm,,,,a good thought, but it seems country needs to slow down.

    Lot of important things to do before a cashless economy.

    Change in currency and the effects of it on the everyday people?, is a good drill.

    These type of drills have happened before as well at the time of other governments.


    There are lot of major changes that the state like that of Utter Pradesh needs to go through and they will not be easy to achieve if everyone is riding big fuel guzzling cars and living in polluted cities/villages and a state without any support for its inhabitants.

    The major changes that need to come to Utter Pradesh need to come from the public itself and for that "change in currency drill", might be a good start.

  22. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Mr. Modi, has nice thoughts and paths but at this point of time he is dreaming too big things at a fast rate?

    Yes, BJP has come to power after a long time and the Mr. Modi wants to take the country from ground to all the way up.

    A cashless economy at present? hmmm,,,,a good thought, but it seems country needs to slow down.

    Lot of important things to do before a cashless economy.

    Change in currency and the effects of it on the everyday people?, is a good drill.

    These type of drills have happened before as well at the time of other governments.


    There are lot of major changes that the state like that of Utter Pradesh needs to go through and they will not be easy to achieve if everyone is riding big fuel guzzling cars and living in polluted cities/villages and a state without any support for its inhabitants.


    Cashless economy in a slum country?
    Cashless economy means few people have the knowledge about finances, resources, etc., of majority of the people. In a country like India where majority of the technology using people are the end consumers of the technology, a cashless economy will create a deprivation effect. Majority sections of the society do not like deprivation effect and that too at such a small time scale.
    There are lot of other things that need to be done before a cashless economy can be achieved. The change in the economy and technology can not be controlled by technology alone. Time scale for this economic control through cashless technology is very small.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; December 14th, 2016 at 07:03 AM.

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