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Originally Posted by maddhan1979
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What we need to understand from this thread is "How damaging religious thought process can be", to entire society and mindset of uneducated, first generation educated and even many of the educated alike.
Yes, but that does not mean these people were following Judaism, religion in ancient tribal context is very late.
But this does not mean these people were following Judaism,,, religions in ancient tribal migration context is very late.
"Mirdha" could also mean a combination of two armies of these clans. Combination of two migrating tribes of these clans, etc.
Correction: "In ancient tribal migration context, tribes migrating from out of country were mostly poor as compared to local tribes or people living locally in these countries."
"In ancient tribal migration context, tribes migrating from other countries were mostly poor as compared to local tribes or people living locally in these countries"
Based on the family names the Jat culture root is present in central Asia + Eurasian subcontinent and the culture of "Meer" as these people are identified by root words as "Meer". These cultures were "Horse riding cultures", this means that these cultures spread all across the world. This also means means these people were free from the concept of Indigenous religious concept as preached by local religions of the land. By enclosing these tribes in boundary area's such as fort walls, not allowing these people to ride horses so they can not go away at far of distances,etc., in current context enclosing these tribes in the nationalistic boundaries, etc., local rulers and religions were able to curtail their movements and disconnect their ancient tribal links. This could have been one of the reasons behind "Jats not being allowed to ride horses".
These names might very well be preIslamic and preHindu tribal name.
Interesting there are people with the following names:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamiris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKaecMDew60
In Indian context it is hard to say, if people can be recognized based on facial features because of wars, etc. , although stereotypical connections are there in any given society.
It is interesting to note that no other community besides Jats, which were not allowed to ride horses in certain parts of the country although originally Jats have "Hunnic" roots, which means that these people were horse riding nomads.
"It seems someone is hacking into my words on this forum"
Last edited by maddhan1979; October 30th, 2016 at 06:12 AM.
"Women in Jat society, were comparatively better", because women in Jat society had an equal role to play, as in ancient times Jats were fighting wars therefore most of the time away from family and home. So, Jat women had an equal role, on the other hand this also led to exploitation and loss of families. I do not know,in ancient times how many Jat families would have disintegrated or disappeared because the male members never returned from wars or were exploited by the rich sections of society or exploited by religious thought processes?
The most dreadful of all religious thought process in women's history in India had been the context of "Sati", as discussed earlier, which did not exist in Jat families, maybe existed in some isolated areas.
"Heer. Meer, Neer" are the words present in Indoeuropean langauges.
Freedom of "Indian subcontinent Banjar's/ tribes of Jats" of today or in other words unsettled Jats (Settled Jats are the people settled in villages/cities) of today is present in their movement and non association with religion. This is the only way these ancient people can maintain their true identity and move away from dirty mix of religion, politics and money power. Permanent settlement of such population will lead to their corruption, subjugation and exploitation under corrupt systems and thought process. Kingdoms/Armies/ Economies have come and gone but these ancient people have been able to maintain their lifestyle without being affected by different thought processes.
It seems that there are no words that show that the dead of these ancient tribes were buried.
Rather there is word which tells that the dead people of these ancient tribes were left on the ground and not in the ground, which might also show ancient migrations and similar practices that these tribes had in different countries.
Leaving dead person on the ground and not in the ground could also be a due to the wars fought by these ancient tribes.
Something bad in the ancient past of this community happened that this community did not want to have anymore girl-child.
It is a well known silent fact in some parts of the community that a girl child was either thrown in river or was given tobacco water when she was born.
The above stated fact might be either due to wars/religious systems/ exploitation as these people were immigrants to Indian subcontinent, etc.,
Practice of "Sati" was almost absent in Jats and similar communities, while practice of "Sati", was prominent in some communities.
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