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    I wonder

    Why only Jats stopped having any more Girl child?
    Evil practices like "Sati", were absent in Jat community.


    Was it due to poverty and their "Hunnic", origin and their fear of losing the girl to the outsiders?
    Being of "Hunnic roots" meant that these people were horse riding people, horse riding people were also warriors in ancient times.
    Being warrior in ancient times also meant loss of family, young people and always being poor.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 17th, 2016 at 07:51 PM.

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    you should think twice before writing any bullshit about the community as a whole.
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Why only Jats stopped having any more Girl child?
    Evil practices like "Sati", were absent in Jat community.


    Was it due to poverty and their "Hunnic", origin and their fear of loosing the girl to the outsiders?
    Being of "Hunnic roots" meant that these people were horse riding people, horse riding people were also warriors in ancient times.
    Being warrior in ancient times also meant loss of family, young people and always being poor.
    Yoginder Gulia

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygulia View Post
    you should think twice before writing any bullshit about the community as a whole.

    "bullshit?",,hmmmm,,,i wonder,,,,kindly explain more, what u exactly want to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Why only Jats stopped having any more Girl child?
    Evil practices like "Sati", were absent in Jat community.


    Was it due to poverty and their "Hunnic", origin and their fear of loosing the girl to the outsiders?
    Being of "Hunnic roots" meant that these people were horse riding people, horse riding people were also warriors in ancient times.
    Being warrior in ancient times also meant loss of family, young people and always being poor.

    "By outsiders",,,, it is meant other kingdoms, clans, armies, etc. We are talking about ancient history of India, which was more or less based on more than 500 different kind of kingdoms spread across the country. These were different kingdoms with different backgrounds, history, language, etc. or one can say a country with people from different ethnic backgrounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Why only Jats stopped having any more Girl child?
    Evil practices like "Sati", were absent in Jat community.


    Was it due to poverty and their "Hunnic", origin and their fear of loosing the girl to the outsiders?
    Being of "Hunnic roots" meant that these people were horse riding people, horse riding people were also warriors in ancient times.
    Being warrior in ancient times also meant loss of family, young people and always being poor.

    Here "Sati" mean this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)


    Although coming from Hunnic roots at certain times in history Jats were not allowed to ride horses, it could also mean at certain point of time in history,, they could have been prisoners of wars and prisoners of religious forces.

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    It is interesting to see based on "wikipedia" that while Britishers tried to abolish "sati practices" in "The first formal British ban was imposed in 1798",

    India brought out a Sati prevention rule in 1987.


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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    It is interesting to see based on "wikipedia" that while Britishers tried to abolish "sati practices" in "The first formal British ban was imposed in 1798",

    India brought out a Sati prevention rule in 1987.

    I wonder why it took so many years for Indian parliament i.e. from 1798 to 1987 to bring "Sati prevention rule" in so called "Independent India"?

    Is there a need for the change in the architecture of the parliamentary system itself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Here "Sati" mean this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)


    Although coming from Hunnic roots at certain times in history Jats were not allowed to ride horses, it could also mean at certain point of time in history,, they could have been prisoners of wars and prisoners of religious forces.

    Although the above shown Wikipedia tries to rationalize the "sati practice" at a global level but the fact remains that it was practiced in India more orthodoxly than anywhere else.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 6th, 2016 at 05:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Here "Sati" mean this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)


    Although coming from Hunnic roots at certain times in history Jats were not allowed to ride horses, it could also mean at certain point of time in history,, they could have been prisoners of wars and prisoners of religious forces.

    This tradition seems to be connected more with religious ideologies according to many texts available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Here "Sati" mean this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)


    Although coming from Hunnic roots at certain times in history Jats were not allowed to ride horses, it could also mean at certain point of time in history,, they could have been prisoners of wars and prisoners of religious forces.


    Presence of Jat gotras like "Mirdha",,which could literally mean "Mir+dha" or in spoken form of word (spoken form of words come before written form of words),,,,it is "Meer" which in Indoeuropean langauges means

    http://www.wordsense.eu/Meer/

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    Now, i wonder,,,which thought process advocated "Dha" ka "Sanskar" ?

    Does burying the dead body of a person, leave a symbol of ancient tribal migration routes?

    Who would like to disconnect the ancient roots of these migrations?

    Does it have to do anything with religious thought process?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    This tradition seems to be connected more with religious ideologies according to many texts available.

    How can we say that evil practices were of the origin of religious thought process?

    In history we find women warriors, women who faught battles in form of armies and in form of individuals.

    While on the religious thought process, there have been cases of mass suicides.

    In Indian context for ages "birth of a child" and "death of a person" has always been related with religious ceremonies.

    So, it is probable that religious though process could be the reason behind evil practices like "Sati".

    Had there been a warrior thought process prevailing at time period the women who committed suicides would have been trained to be warriors as well.

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    The above stated facts show a glimpse in the history and the reasons behind incidences.

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    What do all of these facts tell us about future progression?

    What brought mental independence to women across the world?

    Did political parties which represent some sort of goondanism, religious thought process, family politics, achieve this independence?

    I have my doubts that political and religious roots can really bring mental independence to women in India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Why only Jats stopped having any more Girl child?
    Evil practices like "Sati", were absent in Jat community.


    Was it due to poverty and their "Hunnic", origin and their fear of loosing the girl to the outsiders?
    Being of "Hunnic roots" meant that these people were horse riding people, horse riding people were also warriors in ancient times.
    Being warrior in ancient times also meant loss of family, young people and always being poor.
    Hunnic tribes just do not mean only "people of only Mangoloid origin", rather ancient central Asia had lot of different tribes of different origins and ethnicity.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Central_Asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    What do all of these facts tell us about future progression?

    What brought mental independence to women across the world?

    Did political parties which represent some sort of goondanism, religious thought process, family politics, achieve this independence?

    I have my doubts that political and religious roots can really bring mental independence to women in India.

    Mental independence: related with religious thought process, work, life in general. Lot of women might be at a high educated level but a lot are still uneducated this is the main context related with mental independence.

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    sir jat girls aadmiyo se kushti lad rahi hain kya is se aapko jato ke modern vicharo ki jhalak nahi dikhti ???
    jat community ne humesha samaj ki kureetiyo ko khatm karne ka beda sabse pehle uthaya
    jat community apni alag theory par chalti aai hai shuru se yahi vajah hai ki india mein ancient time se jatu or brahmnic theory aapas mein takrati hai
    sati pratha brahmano ki den hai or vidhva vivah jat community ka rule rAHA hai
    brahmano ke social system ko challenge karne wale jat hi hai india mein
    jitne bhi scholars india aaye sabne ye baat kahi ki jaha shesh bharat mein brahman ko shresht mana jata hai or brahmano ki chalti hai vahi utter bharat mein jatu theory chalti hai
    or bhrun hatya kewal jat community mein nahin hai dusri communities mein bhi hai

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Now, i wonder,,,which thought process advocated "Dha" ka "Sanskar" ?

    Does burying the dead body of a person, leave a symbol of ancient tribal migration routes?

    Who would like to disconnect the ancient roots of these migrations?

    Does it have to do anything with religious thought process?



    Lot of tribes of northwest India tribes have a family name "Dahiya": "Dha +ja" or "Dha+ya",,,,,, "Ya to Dha hai"

    http://www.jatland.com/home/Dahiya

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Lot of tribes of northwest India tribes have a family name "Dahiya": "Dha +ja" or "Dha+ya",,,,,, "Ya to Dha hai"

    http://www.jatland.com/home/Dahiya

    http://www.iranchamber.com/history/a...f_mauryas1.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Lot of tribes of northwest India tribes have a family name "Dahiya": "Dha +ja" or "Dha+ya",,,,,, "Ya to Dha hai"

    http://www.jatland.com/home/Dahiya


    It is porbable that the word "Dha" has central Asian origins.

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