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    British word "Hind"

    Where could it have its origins?

    It is possible that the word "Hind" has its origins in Central Asian tribes their migration, movement and location in central Asia.

    As this word is also present in European languages and it seem to be a "root word and shows a sense of direction, so it is possible that the migrating/moving tribes coined this word in the language and this word spread all across Europe and Asia.

    Arriving in India the local religion/s might have used it for their own use, as the word "Hind", has no religious connection in European languages rather "root word connection", therefore it seems that the word "Hind", has its origins in central Asian and was used in some other parts of the world by religion.

    This might be a clear cut case of religions using words and identities from migrating cultures.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; April 4th, 2017 at 11:03 AM.

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    "Arriving in India the local religion/s might have used it for their own use":

    The word "Hind" arriving in India, with migrating tribes

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    Hind is from Indus. Area on India side of Indus was known as Hind and other side was Sind.
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    The word "Hind", which becomes behind, etc., if i am correct. So, the word "Hind", is a root word of a language. Word "Hind", is from "Indus", or "Indus" is from "Hind", is a matter unknown. One thing is for sure, if you are living in central Asia then the so called river "Indus", is on your "Behind/ hind side",so is the case if u are using old trade and migratory routes.

    As far as i have been able to understand "Hind", is a root word in some European languages.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; April 27th, 2017 at 05:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    "Arriving in India the local religion/s might have used it for their own use":

    The word "Hind" arriving in India, with migrating tribes

    Anyone could have used the word "Hind", in any given form at any given point of time in present and in history, as the word is more global in nature, rather than having only an Indian context.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; October 22nd, 2016 at 09:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    The word "Hind", which becomes behind, hindsight, etc., if i am correct. So, the word "Hind", is a root word of a language. Word "Hind", is from "Indus", or "Indus" is from "Hind", is a matter unknown. One thing is for sure, if you are living in central Asia then the so called river "Indus", is on your "Hindsight", if u are using old trade and migratory routes.

    root word "hind", which is used as behind and hindsight,,,,shows a root word characteristic e.g. "a hind leg"
    Last edited by maddhan1979; October 22nd, 2016 at 09:27 PM.

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    How old is the word "Indus", is it a root word of a language? While "Hind", is a root word of many languages . In old times tribes used to recognize the place by rivers, water area's, etc. these recognition were based on the geographic location, characteristic of water area, etc. It seems that the word "Hind" is older than word "Sind" or "Indus".

    So a tribe living north of any water area would recognize the water area behind its living geographic limit as "some water area behind/on left side/ on right side/north/south/east/west", etc.

    So, a river which is on the "Hind", side of a living area of a tribe can be recognized with word "Hind"
    Last edited by maddhan1979; July 31st, 2017 at 07:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    How old is the word "Indus", is it a root word of a language? While "Hind", is a root word of many languages . In old times tribes used to recognize the place by rivers, water area's, etc. these recognition were based on the geographic location, characteristic of water area, etc. It seems that the word "Hind" is older than word "Sind".

    So a tribe living north of any water area would recognize the water area behind its living geographic limit as "some water area behind/on left side/ on right side/north/south/east/west", etc.

    So, a river which is on the "Hind", side of a living area of a tribe can be recognized with word "Hind"

    Which in long run could have become word "Sind"

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    How old is the word "Indus", is it a root word of a language? While "Hind", is a root word of many languages . In old times tribes used to recognize the place by rivers, water area's, etc. these recognition were based on the geographic location, characteristic of water area, etc. It seems that the word "Hind" is older than word "Sind".

    So a tribe living north of any water area would recognize the water area behind its living geographic limit as "some water area behind/on left side/ on right side/north/south/east/west", etc.

    So, a river which is on the "Hind", side of a living area of a tribe can be recognized with word "Hind"
    While, the root linguistic recognition of these migratory tribes was recognized by word "Meer" and in successive stages as "Taalhan", but their migration route could also have been connected in their family names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    How old is the word "Indus", is it a root word of a language? While "Hind", is a root word of many languages . In old times tribes used to recognize the place by rivers, water area's, etc. these recognition were based on the geographic location, characteristic of water area, etc. It seems that the word "Hind" is older than word "Sind".

    So a tribe living north of any water area would recognize the water area behind its living geographic limit as "some water area behind/on left side/ on right side/north/south/east/west", etc.

    So, a river which is on the "Hind", side of a living area of a tribe can be recognized with word "Hind"
    In ancient times, tribes migrated through river systems, as mostly the rivers systems provided a continuous source of food,an easy battle ground and fast movement area. So, a tribe following river system for migration to a new country, kingdom, etc. would have been asked by the natives of the kingdom/ the new country, : "where do u come from"?

    The migrating tribe which knew the migration route in its own language would have responded the path of its migration in its own language and that could have been the totamic recognition for that tribe,,,,so a tribe migrating to a new land through a river system that is on "hind location of the original tribal presence", would have replied that the tribe came from "Hind" and "Hind" became a "Totamic", recognition of this migrating tribe.

    In family name terminology this migration can still be seen in clan names as "Thind" and "Gangwar".
    Last edited by maddhan1979; June 5th, 2017 at 04:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    In ancient times, tribes migrated through river systems, as mostly the rivers systems provided a continuous source of food,an easy battle ground and fast movement area. So, a tribe following river system for migration and coming to a new country, kingdom, etc. would have been asked by the natives of the kingdom/ the new country, that the tribe migrated to, as : "where do u come from"?

    The migrating tribe which knew the migration route in its own language would have responded the path of its migration in its own language and that could have been the totamic recognition for that tribe,,,,so a tribe migrating to a new land through a river system that is on "hind location location of the original tribal presence", would have replied that the tribe came from "Hind" and "Hind" became a "Totamic", recognition of this migrating tribe.

    In family name terminology this migration can still be seen in clan names as "Thind" and "Gangwar".
    While both the family names are northern Indian family names and tribal totemic identification of family names and this tribal identification seems to be present in a language and does not have a religious identity.

    Who created "Dev" and similar religious words, and for what purpose from these migrating tribes, at what time period is another point.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; June 5th, 2017 at 04:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    While both the family names are northern Indian family names and tribal totemic identification of family names and this tribal identification seems to be present in a language and does not have a religious identity.

    Who created "Dev" and similar religious words, and for what purpose from these migrating tribes and at what time period of these migrating tribes is another point.
    Bigger cults emerge in the form of samaj ,rama, krishan, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    In ancient times, tribes migrated through river systems, as mostly the rivers systems provided a continuous source of food,an easy battle ground and fast movement area. So, a tribe following river system for migration and coming to a new country, kingdom, etc. would have been asked by the natives of the kingdom/ the new country, that the tribe migrated to, as : "where do u come from"?

    The migrating tribe which knew the migration route in its own language would have responded the path of its migration in its own language and that could have been the totamic recognition for that tribe,,,,so a tribe migrating to a new land through a river system that is on "hind location location of the original tribal presence", would have replied that the tribe came from "Hind" and "Hind" became a "Totamic", recognition of this migrating tribe.

    In family name terminology this migration can still be seen in clan names as "Thind" and "Gangwar".

    So, this shows a northern downward migration route of these clans. Words like "Sindh", could be recognition by local tribes to assimilate themselves,,, what one needs to remember is that foreign tribes, religions, etc. which are not native to the land are often shown as invaders, conquerors, etc., which might not be always true. Lot of the times, large scale migration of foreign tribes happened and local tribes assimilated with the local tribes to form new identities.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; March 17th, 2017 at 09:05 PM.

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    If a local/already residing tribe would have asked the new comer to the land, "Where do u come from?", the only answer that newcomer would have been able to give in his/her language would have been the root word which recognized the direction of movement of the tribe in its own understanding i.e. "the hind path/side of its original position", on the other side if the tribe recognized itself based on geographic location relevant to its allied tribes, it would again have been "hind", in ancient military/strategic location of ancient feudal/clan position.

    A locally residing tribe would not have been able to coin the new arrivals as "hind", because any area present below "Indus", would not have been on "Hind" side (as the word means in IndoEuropean language to theIndoEuropean tribes) to the locally residing tribe. So, for a locally residing tribe the area "hind as it means to IndoEuropean tribes" would have been an area in the front, rather than being on the "Hind of IndoEuropean" tribes and would have a different word for recognition rather than the word "Hind". Many of the clan names/family names carry a recognition pattern of their northern migration routes and words such as "Mir/Meer", these words change slightly as the people who migrated from the north went through different kingdoms, wars, people speaking different languages, etc., so we see a slight difference in the spoken form of the root words, and as already stated spoken form of language came first and most often it was the spoken form of language that was carried forward with the migrating tribes/people.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; April 6th, 2017 at 04:45 AM.

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    If this news item is true then it is possible, some clans in Indian subcontinent can trace their ancestry these ancient tribes

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...c8fb39e0e671,0
    Last edited by maddhan1979; April 28th, 2017 at 07:51 AM.

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