Meer/Mir culture of Jats

[maddhan1979]

Where is the Meer/Mir culture of Jats heading in north western India?

Horses of Hunnish Meer/Mir culture of Jats have long been taken away.

Less education, religious mindset and negligible/decreasing agricultural land holdings of agriculture based Jats and similar tribes have brought them to the door of land developers, religious gurus and corrupt politicians all of three are draining resources of these agricultural societies.

Years of wars and feudal system has also given rise to family problems, decreasing female child ratio in such societies also becomes fodder for conflicts.

[maddhan1979]

Where is the Meer/Mir culture of Jats heading in north western India?

Horses of Hunnish Meer/Mir culture of Jats have long been taken away.

Less education, religious mindset and negligible/decreasing agricultural land holdings of agriculture based Jats and similar tribes have brought them to the door of land developers, religious gurus and corrupt politicians all of three are draining resources of these agricultural societies.

Years of wars and feudal system has also given rise to family problems, decreasing female child ratio in such societies also becomes fodder for conflicts.

So, this "Meer/Mir", culture is not coming from "Yadu/Yad(remembrance in tribal history as told in one of the threads earlier)" and this "Meer/Mir" culture also has remembrance words of IndoEuropean origin such as "Heer":

http://dictionary.reverso.net/german-english/Heer

Interestingly "Meer" and "Neer" both connect with "Water".

Now which "Army", is the word "Heer", talking about, because the word "Heer" is also of IndoEuropean origin, is it talking about "Scythian Invasion in 4th century AD"?

Here "Heer", "e" is also spelled as "a", in some languages.

[maddhan1979]

So, this "Meer/Mir", culture is not coming from "Yadu/Yad(remembrance in tribal history as told in one of the threads earlier)" and this "Meer/Mir" culture also has remembrance words of IndoEuropean origin such as "Heer":

http://dictionary.reverso.net/german-english/Heer

Interestingly "Meer" and "Neer" both connect with "Water".

Now which "Army", is the word "Heer", talking about, because the word "Heer" is also of IndoEuropean origin, is it talking about "Scythian Invasion in 4th century AD"?

Here "Heer", "e" is also spelled as "a", in some languages.

So, this is pre religious origins and pre "Hindu" origins.
Although the root word "Hind" might be present in IndoEuropean langauges but it does not predate "Meer culture". As "Hind" is a language specific word and the language in which "Hind" is spoken, is not as ancient as the "Meer"culture and the languages spoken by people of "Meer Culture".

Little is known about the languages spoken by people of "Meer/Mir Culture", one thing is sure, that the people/tribes who originally migrated from these "Meer/Mir area's", carried forward their recognition as their tribal identity.

[maddhan1979]

So, this is pre religious origins and pre "Hindu" origins.
Although the root word "Hind" might be present in IndoEuropean langauges but it does not predate "Meer culture". As "Hind" is a language specific word and the language in which "Hind" is spoken, is not as ancient as the "Meer"culture and the languages spoken by people of "Meer Culture".

Little is known about the languages spoken by people of "Meer/Mir Culture", one thing is sure, that the people/tribes who originally migrated from these "Meer/Mir area's", carried forward their recognition as their tribal identity.

Recognition and changing of the word "Hind" into "Hindu", might be present in languages out of Indian subcontinent. Tribes from "Meer culture", migrated to many places across the globe. Indian subcontinent is shielded by Himalayan range, tribes which came through passes in Himalayan range adopted local religion. It is interesting to see that while word "Hind" is also present in other languages across the world, the religious oriented word "Hindu", is not present out of Indian subcontinent. While there is a word called "Al-Hind", which might show originality of the word "Hind" and not "Hindu". It is possible that the local religion and the custodians of local religion changed the original word "Hind" into "Hindu", to encompass the original migrating tribes coming from outside into religious domain of a religion. This has happened in all the world religions throughout ages.

[maddhan1979]

Recognition and changing of the word "Hind" into "Hindu", might be present in languages out of Indian subcontinent. Tribes from "Meer culture", migrated to many places across the globe. Indian subcontinent is shielded by Himalayan range, tribes which came beyond Himalayan range adopted local religion. It is interesting to see that while word "Hind" is also present in other languages across the world, the religious oriented word "Hindu", is not present out of Indian subcontinent. While there is a word called "Al-Hind", which might show originality of the word "Hind" and not "Hindu". It is possible that the local religion and the custodians of local religion changed the original word "Hind" into "Hindu", to encompass the original migrating tribes coming from outside into religious domain of a religion. This has happened in all the world religions throughout ages.

There are two line of thoughts in context of religion:

1. New comers to a foreign land, often proclaim that they are the one who started a religious concept to the natives.
2. Already existing religion of the land often proclaims that the new comers to their native land were mostly "Barbarians ,uncivilized and dirty people", and were civilized by local religion, people and local rulers.

In research done in this field most often it has been found that local religion dominated the newcomers. If the newcomers came as an invading force then the local religious forces merged with the newcomers of the land in long term. If the newcomers came as small groups of migrants to a new land the local religious forces merged with the new migrants in small time scale.
It was necessary for the local religion forces to obtain the identities of new comers to spread local religious influence and in this way the religious forces were able to keep themselves ahead. This has been progression of civil life in all the countries throughout the world through ages.
Whether this religious influence was good or bad is another point altogether.

[maddhan1979]

Thought process which teaches that forces of religion came from outside and made the locals civilized, land up in breaking the religion into different groups, which leads to exploitation of the general public.

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Based on the linguistic difference of Meer/Mir and Amir/Aamir( a rich person) tells us that these people did not come to India as socially lower strata people of a society but as outsiders to the subcontinent. This could also tell us that conversion of these people to different strata could have taken place at a later stage of settlement in Indian subcontinent.

Mir/Meer culture of Jats, was culture of masses and culture of outsiders to Indian subcontinent. It is culture of poor people who were originally migrants to today's India and ancient Indian subcontinent. Whether these ancient migrants became slaves to religion, wars,poverty etc., is another point.

While the word "Mir/Meer and Amir/Aamir" also exists out of Indian subcontinent the stratification of these people is not present out of India in ancient times.