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Thread: Feudal wars and their impact on society

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Combination of controlling inflow and outflow of people using religion and ancient forts can be seen in spread of forts+religion influence, etc., in India. In northwest of India, the routes were through Punjab, Rajasthan and the Himalayan routes.

    Punjab could have been a battle ground for long time as there were many rivers in this region, that would have facilitated local armies to manage war situations, Rajasthan was too dry(without water) for any big army to move(because in ancient times, if a big army met with a war in a place like Rajasthan, it would have been disaster for a foreign army), this fortification of forts can still be see in the forts of Rajasthan, where outside armies would face problems relating with everday upkeeping of the army. Then there is fort called Aamer(a+mer/mir) :

    Which again shows a trend, where forts were being built in this region to keep outside armies and migrations away using these regions(Migrations from West of Rajasthan migrations from north of present day India, etc.). Above Rajasthan came Punjab, which again in ancient times would have had marshes and lot of river streams, so Punjab was an easy ground for local Armies(people living in that region at any given time period) to control outflow and inflow of population. Both these regions also had high influence of religious forces and religious thought process as well. Himalayan ranges and passes in Himalaya were no different, only difference being, it was difficult for religious forces to fortify Himalayan ranges, but again Himalayas were full of thieves, decoits and looters and this is proved by the fact that lot of defensive fighting techniques trace their origins to people passing through Himalayan ranges coming from China and other parts connecting Himalaya. These boundaries would have been good enough to provide fodder to local religious thought processes and feudal mindset. Religious forces time and again made sure that these forces maintained their identities, which is evident till now. Armies were mostly in the form of poor people or groups of foreign migrants into the country. These groups were hardy people because they were travelling long distances in ancient times which meant that these groups were physically fighting their onward journey, these groups were also most desirable by religious forces and fort forces as these groups were their continuous source of new commerce and supply to army. These migrating groups included people fleeing wars, famines, people moving to better places, so on. This also included migrants in form of major migrations as Scythian invasions, etc.
    It seems forts of many places in northwest of India, were not built to welcome or incorporate outsiders coming to Indian subcontinent, as often these forts had only that much of space that these forts could encompass, local kings, priests and local traders.
    Tribes which can trace their ancestry to Hunnic tribes, central Asian origin, etc., such as Talhan, Nain(there is place called NainiTal, etc.,) and northwest of Indian subcontinent were not welcomed as often they were not even allowed small things such as water.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; February 14th, 2017 at 07:10 AM.

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    Did these tribe come from north or west of Indian subcontinent. It seems a major inflow of tribes happened from north. As these unknown people from lost armies, defeated armies, people fleeing wars, people fleeing persecution, armies that came as invaders, migratory people who came as settlers, people who were brought as slaves, etc., would/could have an unknown origin in local context and one word that could have identified these people could have been "Raj", "Secret", in the same context word "Rajasthan", seems to be made up of three different words "Raj" + "a"+"sthan/Place in English" (again "a" seems to be negation i.e. a place which is not of people of unknown origins), it is possible that there were large migration and movement from northern routes of present day India. Again ancient India Punjab would have had lot of rivers and marshes, so not favorable for armies or people to move through, Rajasthan was dry so not favorable place for armies to move through with lot of animals and other ancient war equipment.

    So, it seems northern passes were the best routes from tribes/people/armies to move through as in ancient times high passes was an advantage to incoming people as compared to local people/already living, living in interior of Indian subcontinent.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; August 3rd, 2017 at 07:30 AM.

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