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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    There is a word Guyana, it is also name of a country.

    "Gu" means **** and Yana/Yan/Jan is again a word that has its origins in central Asia but different interpretations throughout the world. Why was this word coined? These were ancient grazers of animals mostly small animals like sheep and goats from central Asia. Were they grazers of big animals? The answer might be a "No". So whereever these ancient grazers went they had lot of animals and their **** all over the place. In ancient times where forts were small and there was always a threat of invasion to the forts such ancient grazers would not have been allowed inside the forts as there was not much space inside the forts for their animals and the people travelling with these animals. So, where ever these people went they would have been called as "Guyana", or a "Yan of ****", in religious terminology "plane of ****". This word also tells that the "Han/Yan" people were travelling people on horses of ancient times.
    Culture of "Gu", seems to represent many tribes which originally came from central Asia but also includes many other local and tribes migrating at different time periods.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; January 20th, 2017 at 09:00 PM.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    But the word "Guyan", is verified by the lives of the people of northwest India which were using houses made out of mud, vegetative matter, etc., and this kind of lifestyle can be traced to central Asia, where ancient remains are still present in archeological format.

    Use of mud to make houses also connects with "Mir/Meer", culture of these ancient people. The best things to make houses near a "Meer/Mir", is mud, vegetative matter and other natural material.

    Although all the people of the country "Guyana", might now be able to trace their history back to Asian subcontinent, American subcontinent is also very diverse, due to large scale migration and people who went to different parts of the world at different times.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; December 6th, 2016 at 07:13 PM.

  3. #23
    While the word "Nath" only appears in some words of the language like "Baidhnath",, word "Anath" seems to appear only in one word. with "a" as negation.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; June 17th, 2017 at 07:30 AM.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    While the word "Nath" only appears in some words of the language like "Baidhnath",, word "Aanath" seems to appear only in one word. with "aa" as negation.
    The real word might be "Vaidhnath" but again who is describing "Vaidh" and "Aavaidh"?

    The might be due to religious and feudal mindset of ancient Indian society, where religious and feudal mindset stated what is "Vaidh" and what is "Avaidh".
    Last edited by maddhan1979; March 28th, 2017 at 12:14 PM.

  5. #25
    There is an interesting word called "Paimana", which means "scale" seems to be of "Urdu" origin, could not find a similar word in "Persian or Arabic" for word "Scale".

    "Urdu", seems to be of Indian subcontinent origin, so most probable this word came into existence after people from Persia, Arabia and other places migrated to Indian subcontinent.

  6. #26
    How does and when does a country, culture, etc. form words?

    Why is there a need for new words in a diverse culture?

  7. #27
    I wonder, who was searching the solution through "Hal", an ancient farmer`s tool to plough the land, "Hal", in Hindi mathematics means " solution.

    One thing seems to be certain, it is was not the migrants to Indian subcontinent. Who was trying to save the Forts and from whom and who was benefitting from this "Hal"?
    Last edited by maddhan1979; January 27th, 2017 at 08:30 AM.

  8. #28
    I wonder, how many new religious and social identities were created using the identities of these migrants. Who was creating these identities and who was benefiting from these identities?

  9. #29
    Two different words Raj and Rjvara.

    Who were Raj? "Yeh to Raj hai ki yeh log kaun hai", (the word Raj means "secret") in Ancient history of diverse society and kingdoms, people often travelled far of distances for work, life, etc., this was a diverse society of people from different backgrounds such as people from wars, new arrivals to the kingdom, etc. Often these people were not living in forts rather out in the open area's.
    Rjvara: has usually been associated with royalty, seems to be a word which came into existence in later part of Indian history.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; February 21st, 2017 at 03:12 PM.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    I wonder, who was searching the solution through "Hal", an ancient farmer`s tool to plough the land, "Hal", in Hindi mathematics means " solution.

    One thing seems to be certain, it is was not the migrants to Indian subcontinent. Who was trying to save the Forts and from whom and who was benefitting from this "Hal"?
    It is probable that the new arrival to the diverse kingdoms and people of India would have had wars, at certain point of time when the wars finished, the new arrivals could have been left out in the open area's. These new comers naturally had a new languages with them and there was a difference in the languages of the locals and the new arrivals. After knowing the languages of the new arrivals the already existing people who were earlier living in the area would have offered the solution in the language of the new arrivals. The word "Mai(in hindi) (which is "me" in English) Hal", could have originated through this root.
    Already existing people who were aware that the land could be offered as a solution to newcomers to the land in the language of new comers (reason of using language of new arrivals, so that new arrivals can understand it better) a person offered a solution saying "Mai+Hal(an instrument for agriculture and "solution", in Hindi)", and thus could have started introduction of new arrival's/slaves/people from lost armies/people from defeated armies, etc. These people would have been placed outside the area of already existing people of the land. We do not see making of "Red fort", in early history. So, it is possible that the early arrivals to India present day India settled out of Maihal (in Hindi) area's of present day India.
    "Maihal's", built in the very late phases of Indian history such as those built after building of "Lal kila, Red fort", could have been built due to security reasons, travel safety, etc.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; March 13th, 2017 at 08:11 AM.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    I wonder, who was searching the solution through "Hal", an ancient farmer`s tool to plough the land, "Hal", in Hindi mathematics means " solution.

    One thing seems to be certain, it is was not the migrants to Indian subcontinent. Who was trying to save the Forts and from whom and who was benefitting from this "Hal"?
    It is probable that the new arrival to the diverse kingdoms and people of India would have had wars, at certain point of time when the wars finished, the new arrivals could have been left out in the open area's. These new comers naturally had a new languages with them and there was a difference in the languages of the locals and the new arrivals. After knowing the languages of the new arrivals the already existing people who were earlier living in the area would have offered the solution in the language of the new arrivals. The word "Mai(in hindi) (which is "me" in English) Hal", could have originated through this root.
    Already existing people who were aware that the land could be offered as a solution to newcomers to the land in the language of new comers (reason of using language of new arrivals, so that new arrivals can understand it better) a person offered a solution saying "Mai+Hal(an instrument for agriculture and "solution", in Hindi)", and thus could have started introduction of new arrival's/slaves/people from lost armies/people from defeated armies, etc. These people would have been placed outside the area of already existing people of the land. We do not see making of "Red fort", in early history. So, it is possible that the early arrivals to India present day India settled out of Maihal (in Hindi) area's of present day India.
    "Maihal's", built in the very late phases of Indian history such as those built after building of "Lal kila, Red fort", could have been built due to security reasons, travel safety, etc.
    The very basic word that the people living in the area would have learned from the new comers of the new comer's language would have been me ("mai" in hindi), you, he, she, they, etc.,. So the solution offered to the new comers in the language could have been started by the local tribes after learning the new comer's language.
    Again these "local tribes", could have been tribes which were living in the area before arrival of new tribes, etc.
    Why local tribes/already residing tribes, because agriculture in India seems to predate arrival of these various tribes, which trace their ancesstory to different travel routes/central Asia/ancient middle east, etc.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; March 28th, 2017 at 11:32 PM.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Two different words Raj and Rjvara.

    Who were Raj? "Yeh to Raj hai ki yeh log kaun hai", (the word Raj means "secret") in Ancient history of diverse society and kingdoms, people often travelled far of distances for work, life, people fleeing wars, lost armies, etc., this was a diverse society of people from different backgrounds such as people from wars, new arrivals to the kingdom, etc. Often these people were not living in forts rather out in the open area.
    Rjvara: has usually been associated with royalty, seems to be a word which came into existence in later part of Indian history.



    The word "Raj", means secret, now "Raj", is contextual to the land of its origin, migration, ancient links, etc. In ancient times when people traveled far off distances on horse backs and on other ancient travel animals, often tribes traveled far off distances, e.g.

    http://www.historydiscussion.net/asi...tral-asia/5830

    http://britishacademy.universitypres...3846-chapter-4

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/his...f-Central-Asia


    It is possible that the word "Raj", itself has been used to depict people of central Asian origin and people from far off places which were unknown to the land of migration, which comprises of different tribes at different point of times, which were mostly horse riding people/tribes. In north western Indian subcontinent context majority of tribal migration seems to come from the same routes/roots and tribes.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; April 28th, 2017 at 07:54 AM.

  13. #33
    Entire nation seems to work in a "nath" or "anath" mode.

    While there is no counting of "anath", out on the street, in the houses, etc., made by pollution, corruption, unaccounted past corruption, fights between religion, wars between armies, etc.

    This mode works at almost all levels of society and people in different forms and seems to have an ancient past.

  14. #34
    Almirah : Seems to be odd combination of words and interesting is the part as to how this word would have started?

    Al + mirah
    Mira is a girl's name in Indian subcontinent and maybe out of Indian subcontinent. The word Mirah seems to be a combination of two words: Mir+ rah. "Rah", in India means path, it is also possible that in ancient times women from ancient middle east after wars were brought as slaves, war prisoners or were escaping prosecution came to Indian subcontinent.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; June 17th, 2017 at 07:23 AM.

  15. #35
    But Almirah is not a root word, older root word is again Mir/Meer

    difference in written form of Mir/Meer is based on written language at different places, while the spoken form was carried forward with the migrating people. Spoken form of a word comes first and then comes the written form.

    Almirah could also mean that certain civilizations in ancient middle east were started by women and children running from wars at certain period of time from ancient central Asia, ancient central Eurasia.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; April 8th, 2017 at 01:33 AM.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    But Almirah is not a root word, older root word is again Mir/Meer

    difference in written form of Mir/Meer is based on written language at different places, while the spoken form was carried forward with the migrating people. Spoken form of a word comes first and then comes the written form.

    Almirah could also mean that certain civilizations in ancient middle east were started by women and children running from wars at certain period of time from ancient central Asia, ancient central Eurasia.
    "Almirah", seem to be combination of several words, so it is possible that these words were coined at a later stage of history in AD era. People of earlier migrations and BC era civilizations could have traveled or were taken as slaved to middle east and other parts of world or people were fleeing wars and other persecutions at a later stage of history.

  17. #37
    "Lingua and Alingua"

    Lingua "1. any language that is widely used as a means of communication among speakers of other languages. 2. (initial capital letter) the Italian-Provenšal jargon (with elements of Spanish, French, Greek, Arabic, and Turkish) formerly widely used in eastern Mediterranean ports. Origin of lingua franca."


    Alingua "A+Lingua" ,,,, i.e. no language, becomes opposite of "Lingua"


    History, language, human movement,culture,etc. is depicted in the language of the people, on a global scale language connected with common migrations and roots of the people irrespective of national or international boundaries.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; June 17th, 2017 at 07:30 AM.

  18. #38
    There are words like "Prachiin", in Hindi i.e. ancient. This word seem to be a vague word and does not seem to indicate any specific location, people, etc., but it sure indicated word "Chiin", which might refer to China.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    There are words like "Prachiin", in Hindi i.e. ancient. This word seem to be a vague word and does not seem to indicate any specific location, people, etc., but it sure indicated word "Chiin", which might refer to China.

    This word could also have been used to depict people of various origins coming and going through silk route.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    I wonder, who was searching the solution through "Hal", an ancient farmer`s tool to plough the land, "Hal", in Hindi mathematics means " solution.

    One thing seems to be certain, it is was not the migrants to Indian subcontinent. Who was trying to save the Forts and from whom and who was benefitting from this "Hal"?

    Hard work of "Hal" and ancient rudimentary agriculture never allowed these ancient tribes to get educated or discover their ancient past, rather it seems an education system was imposed which was driven by religious thought process.

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