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    Some interesting words

    There are some interesting words which might have some historical significance.

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    Lingayat

    The word tells about itself:

    Ling+a+ yat

    "a", is again negation for word "yat" as a "Ling"

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    This word may have its origins in response to hundreds of tribes moving into Indian subcontinent from northwest of India.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 25th, 2016 at 05:22 AM.

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    While "Ling" represents "Shiva" , the Hindu god of destruction.

    "Yat", seems to represent people of "Mir" culture or migrants to the Indian subcontinent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    While "Ling" represents "Shiva" , the Hindu god of destruction.

    "Yat", seems to represent people of "Mir" culture or migrants to the Indian subcontinent.
    There is a European family name "Lind", which might have emerged after 7th century AD or has different linguistic roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    While "Ling" represents "Shiva" , the Hindu god of destruction.

    "Yat", seems to represent people of "Mir" culture or migrants to the Indian subcontinent.
    The concept of "Shiva", might represent two very different cultures, this concept might have emerged due to the wars between two different cultures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    The concept of "Shiva", might represent two very different cultures, this concept might have emerged due to the wars between two different cultures.
    In due time there would have been downward and upward movement of local tribes and the tribes out of Indian Subcontinent. There might have been some similar sounding words but majority of the words of out of Indian subcontinent origin can still be traced back to root words and words that even existed in BC era. A similar case has been shown in case of our discussion related with "Median tribes", and the name "Archimedes". The word "Archimedes", although of Greek and Roman origin seems have its origins in central Asia/Eurasian plains.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; December 6th, 2016 at 04:14 PM.

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    Words like "Meer/Mir" connect these ancient civilizations.

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    Now there is a "Shaolin temple":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaolin_Monastery

    Interestingly it dates later then "Taoism".

    But coincides with 4th century AD "Scythian migration into India"

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    Narayan = Nar+a+yan

    This word could have formed when large scale war between the migrating tribes from the north and local+living tribes had wars.
    Now the word "Yan" and "Han" has Eurasian origins. Nar means a "male". "Yan" in Indian religious context has been used as "Plane", so the word "Narayan", means "A plane which does not have male members", this is a historical context, which might have emerged out of war and could depict women and children fleeing the war on horses. As the word "Han" means horse riding people from Eurasia.

    Do we get similar instances of women(Is the word "Kaur", is used by people from other places or are root word of any language?) and children fleeing the wars in ancient India. Well, there is a place called "Dankaur", which comes out of two words if spoken in clear form, "Dhan+kaur", while Kaur is used as a last name by ladies from Punjab and Dhan means money.
    It is possible that in ancient past people (women+children+armies from lost wars+ people fleeing wars, etc.) settled in such places, it is also possible that these areas were part of "slave trade", in ancient past, slaves were mostly taken by the armies which won the war or people who did not fight the wars and were the later looters of the leftovers of the wars. There will be numerous such instances of several tribes spread across northwestern India. Lot of these tribes could have masqueraded to save their identities in time of wars and conflicts.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 27th, 2016 at 01:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Narayan = Nar+a+yan

    This word could have formed when large scale war between the migrating tribes from the north and local+living tribes had wars.
    Now the word "Yan" and "Han" has Eurasian origins. Nar means a "male". "Yan" in Indian religious context has been used as "Plane", so the word "Narayan", means "A plane which does not have male members", this is a historical context, which might have emerged out of war and the women and children fleeing the war on horses. As the word "Han" means horse riding people from Eurasia.

    Do we get similar instances of women and children fleeing the wars in ancient India. Well, there is a place called "Dankaur", which comes out of two words if spoken in clear form, "Dhan+kaur", while Kaur is used as a last name by ladies of Punjab and Dhan means money. (Is the word "Kaur", is used by people from other places or are root word of any language?)
    It is possible that in ancient past people (women+children+armies from lost wars+ people fleeing wars, etc.) settled in such places, it is also possible that these areas were part of "slave trade", in ancient past, slaves were mostly taken by the armies which won the war or people who did not fight the wars and were the later looters of the leftovers of the wars. There will be numerous such instances spread across northwestern India.

    Jats,Muslims,Sikhs,Rajpoots and several similar tribes are part of common history throughout northwest of India.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 27th, 2016 at 01:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Narayan = Nar+a+yan

    This word could have formed when large scale war between the migrating tribes from the north and local+living tribes had wars.
    Now the word "Yan" and "Han" has Eurasian origins. Nar means a "male". "Yan" in Indian religious context has been used as "Plane", so the word "Narayan", means "A plane which does not have male members", this is a historical context, which might have emerged out of war and the women and children fleeing the war on horses. As the word "Han" means horse riding people from Eurasia.

    Do we get similar instances of women and children fleeing the wars in ancient India. Well, there is a place called "Dankaur", which comes out of two words if spoken in clear form, "Dhan+kaur", while Kaur is used as a last name by ladies of Punjab and Dhan means money.
    It is possible that in ancient past people (women+children+armies from lost wars+ people fleeing wars, etc.) settled in such places, it is also possible that these areas were part of "slave trade", in ancient past, slaves were mostly taken by the armies which won the war or people who did not fight the wars and were the later looters of the leftovers of the wars. There will be numerous such instances spread across northwestern India.

    Han and Yan have ancient Eurasian roots, while the ancient tribes were living inside present day China, Mongolia and plains of Eurasia later movement of these tribes happened in later part of history and the root words were carried forward.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 27th, 2016 at 01:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Narayan = Nar+a+yan

    This word could have formed when large scale war between the migrating tribes from the north and local+living tribes had wars.
    Now the word "Yan" and "Han" has Eurasian origins. Nar means a "male". "Yan" in Indian religious context has been used as "Plane", so the word "Narayan", means "A plane which does not have male members", this is a historical context, which might have emerged out of war and the women and children fleeing the war on horses. As the word "Han" means horse riding people from Eurasia.

    Do we get similar instances of women and children fleeing the wars in ancient India. Well, there is a place called "Dankaur", which comes out of two words if spoken in clear form, "Dhan+kaur", while Kaur is used as a last name by ladies from Punjab and Dhan means money. (Is the word "Kaur", is used by people from other places or are root word of any language?)
    It is possible that in ancient past people (women+children+armies from lost wars+ people fleeing wars, etc.) settled in such places, it is also possible that these areas were part of "slave trade", in ancient past, slaves were mostly taken by the armies which won the war or people who did not fight the wars and were the later looters of the leftovers of the wars. There will be numerous such instances spread across northwestern India.
    Now "Dhan" and "Han" are two very different words with two very different roots and origins, although the written form of words might seem same.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 27th, 2016 at 08:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Narayan = Nar+a+yan

    This word could have formed when large scale war between the migrating tribes from the north and local+living tribes had wars.
    Now the word "Yan" and "Han" has Eurasian origins. Nar means a "male". "Yan" in Indian religious context has been used as "Plane", so the word "Narayan", means "A plane which does not have male members", this is a historical context, which might have emerged out of war and the women and children fleeing the war on horses. As the word "Han" means horse riding people from Eurasia.

    Do we get similar instances of women and children fleeing the wars in ancient India. Well, there is a place called "Dankaur", which comes out of two words if spoken in clear form, "Dhan+kaur", which Kaur is used as a last name by ladies from Punjab and Dhan means money. (Is the word "Kaur", is used by people from other places or are root word of any language?)
    It is possible that in ancient past people (women+children+armies from lost wars+ people fleeing wars, etc.) settled in such places, it is also possible that these areas were part of "slave trade", in ancient past, slaves were mostly taken by the armies which won the war or people who did not fight the wars and were the later looters of the leftovers of the wars. There will be numerous such instances spread across northwestern India.
    Word "Narayan", does not mean that all the people with family name ending with "Yan", are related with wars and children+females fleeing wars. "Narayan" is is just one word and might give a glimpse into ancient history and how family names formed and country of more than 500 different kingdoms lived.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 27th, 2016 at 01:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Narayan = Nar+a+yan

    This word could have formed when large scale war between the migrating tribes from the north and local+living tribes had wars.
    Now the word "Yan" and "Han" has Eurasian origins. Nar means a "male". "Yan" in Indian religious context has been used as "Plane", so the word "Narayan", means "A plane which does not have male members", this is a historical context, which might have emerged out of war and could depict women and children fleeing the war on horses. As the word "Han" means horse riding people from Eurasia.

    Do we get similar instances of women(Is the word "Kaur", is used by people from other places or are root word of any language?) and children fleeing the wars in ancient India. Well, there is a place called "Dankaur", which comes out of two words if spoken in clear form, "Dhan+kaur", while Kaur is used as a last name by ladies from Punjab and Dhan means money.
    It is possible that in ancient past people (women+children+armies from lost wars+ people fleeing wars, etc.) settled in such places, it is also possible that these areas were part of "slave trade", in ancient past, slaves were mostly taken by the armies which won the war or people who did not fight the wars and were the later looters of the leftovers of the wars. There will be numerous such instances of several tribes spread across northwestern India. Lot of these tribes could have masqueraded to save their identities in time of wars and conflicts.
    Again Narayan is a religion related word, so one also has to take into consideration role of religion in ancient cultures and economies in framing identities.

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    Meerath :
    The word "Meerut", can really be "Meer/Mir + rath", or "Rath of people of Meer/Mir", "Meer/Mir is again people coming from out of Indian subcontinent i.e. ancient migrants or people of Meer/Mir, civilizations".

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Meerath :
    The word "Meerut", can really be "Meer/Mir + rath", or "Rath of people of Meer/Mir", "Meer/Mir is again people coming from out of Indian subcontinent i.e. ancient migrants or people of Meer/Mir, civilizations".
    Now the very first people who came into Indian subcontinent were people riding horse(It is an archaeological fact that horses are not native to Indian subcontinent). As the Raths(chariots) could not be brought over Himalayas so, after sometime everyone was making Raths as knowledge spread and people started making Raths at all the places, but it seems that people of Meer/Mir came through Himalayas.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; November 28th, 2016 at 08:30 PM.

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    There is a word Guyana, it is also name of a country.

    "Gu" means **** and Yana/Yan/Jan is again a word that has its origins in central Asia but different interpretations throughout the world. Why was this word coined? These were ancient grazers of animals mostly small animals like sheep and goats from central Asia. Were they grazers of big animals? The answer might be a "No". So whereever these ancient grazers went they had lot of animals and their **** all over the place. In ancient times where forts were small and there was always a threat of invasion to the forts such ancient grazers would not have been allowed inside the forts as there was not much space inside the forts for their animals and the people travelling with these animals. So, where ever these people went they would have been called as "Guyana", or a "Yan of ****", in religious terminology "plane of ****". This word also tells that the "Han/Yan" people were travelling people on horses of ancient times.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; December 3rd, 2016 at 12:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    There is a word Guyana, it is also name of a country.

    "Gu" means **** and Yana is again a word that has its origins in central Asia but different interpretations throughout the world. Why was this word coined? These were ancient grazers of animals mostly small animals like sheep and goats from central Asia. So whenever these ancient grazers went they had lot of animals and their **** all over the place. In ancient times where forts were small and there was always a threat of invasion to the forts such ancient grazers would not have been allowed inside the forts as there was not much space inside the forts for their animals and the people travelling with these animals. So, where ever these people went they would have been called as "Guyana", or a "Yan of ****", in religious terminology "plane of ****". This word also tells that the "Han/Yan" people were travelling people on horses of ancient times.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guyana, The word Guyana is a word very late in history and carried forward to Americas by people travelling/ migrating/workers/etc. to American subcontinent.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; December 3rd, 2016 at 11:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guyana, The word Guyana is a word very late in history and carried forward to Americas by people travelling/ migrating/workers/etc. to American subcontinent.
    But the word "Guyan", is verified by the lives of the people of northwest India which were using houses made out of mud, vegetative matter, etc., and this kind of lifestyle can be traced to central Asia, where ancient remains are still present in archeological format.

    Use of mud to make houses also connects with "Mir/Meer", culture of these ancient people. The best things to make houses near a "Meer/Mir", is mud, vegetative matter and other natural material.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; December 3rd, 2016 at 12:31 PM.

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