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    Digitization of individual details e.g. AADHAR

    There is digitization of individual details happening though different means, AADHAR is one such scheme.

    Is it relevant for the country and people in current scenario?

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    Digitization of Individual details will only make things worse, middle class will be put to a a bigger "Hal", which will be exploited by "all".

    Divide between rich and poor will also increase at an alarming rate.

    "AADHAR": itself means AA+Dhar", "Dhar" is a common word used by people who keep "animals and sell milk", "Dhar of milk", is common word used by everyone in the trade of milk selling.

    So, it is possible that there is economic enslavement of the people is happening through the system and digitization of records.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; March 31st, 2017 at 08:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    There is digitization of individual details happening though different means, AADHAR is one such scheme.

    Is it relevant for the country and people in current scenario?

    If we look in recent history, we find that almost most of the governments and people in power used information about their own employees i.e. government employees, people, etc., and many of these people were put to inhuman conditions because of the personal data gathered by the governments. It is a known fact that during nuclear age, lot of soldiers from their own Army were given poisoned pills by their own governments to measure the radiation effects on soldiers, such acts were done without preconcent/knowledge of the soldiers or the people serving the forces. This is one example, there have been several similar example of governments using the gathered personal data against their own citizens, civilians and serving personnel alike.
    In case of India where difference of ideologies, religious mindset, corruption, inhuman conditions, etc., override everyday life of common person, such data gathering by any organization government/nongovernment is dangerous .


    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_cointelpro06.htm

    All the governments, institutions, etc., of the world have done experiments, social, medical, psychological, etc., on its own citizens, so any kind of personal data gathering is not good for citizens of the country. There are more important things for the government to take care of than gathering personal data. Vast amount of reports can be prepared using this personalized data gathering, which can be used by individuals, groups, etc.

    Minorities, special groups, tribals, etc. can come under direct prejudices and threats.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; April 3rd, 2017 at 09:07 AM.

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    There are innumerable data gathering results on population in developed countries throughout the world. This kind of data gathering was earlier stored in paper format and in distributed format and still this data was used for different uses with mostly hidden and corrupt agendas, with centralized data storage and data being stored in electronic/digital format, it might be catastrophic for the nation and its population.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; June 10th, 2017 at 07:22 AM.

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    This is not case of one country but many countries throughout the world. In Indian context where religion, corruption, criminality and money power has a major role in deciding everything for it's citizens, the above stated facts might be larger than people can even get to know.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; April 5th, 2017 at 08:20 AM.

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    Greatest problem with digital records is that digital data can be manipulated in much easier way than data stored in paper format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Greatest problem with digital records is that digital data can be manipulated in much easier way than data stored in paper format.

    There are lot of softwares which people use to manipulate data in digital format and then data can also be accessed and manipulated at the place of data storage, during transportation of digital data physically or digitally,etc.


    Besides that data can also be accessed from remote locations, hardware can also be made which can facilitate all the above stated facts.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; May 5th, 2017 at 08:15 PM.

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    Uncontrolled Farm land acquisition in Yamuna and Ganga farm land

    There is an uncontrolled land acquisition taking place by government and other land authorities in Yamuna and Ganga belt, cities northwest India, etc.

    Some rivers such as Hindon in north west India are already finished, only Yamuna and Ganga are the remaining rivers which are again being destroyed by this land acquisition and colonization.

    In a decade or so, if rivers like Yamuna and Ganga turns into drains of dirty water, this has a long impact all the way till Bengal and the other area's where these rivers fall into sea.

    These area's could very well become area's with irreversible damage to land and water over and under the ground for thousands of years.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; May 10th, 2017 at 06:51 AM.

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    Software Engineers in India

    Lot of software engineers in India might be facing problems from different sectors of people and conditions which have nothing to do with software engineering. This starts from microwave pollution to people who have nothing to do with programming/software development/IT sector, etc., there is a big digital divide that software engineers have to face that effects their personal and working lives.

    On the personal side people working in IT industry might also be facing issues with sections of population know/unknown to them, who might be trying to manipulate lives of IT people.

    This includes unwanted intrusion in homes, lives and thought processes of IT people working in IT sector.

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    Failure of central and state governments

    India is experiencing a failure of state and central government at all levels.

    May and June have not been warm. India is heading for a failure which is being facilitated by political parties and the ruling governments.

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    One can not improve things by organizing mass gathering of yoga. It is wastage of time for the people elected.

    Yoga is not going to improve anything rather impose a thought process on masses that will finish their own thought process.

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    Aadhar card/digital data gathering

    Is aadhar card/digital data gathering a good thing for India?

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    Current thought process are trying to implement digital tracking of personal information of everyday citizen.

    Have these governments taken into account the past scandals done by the governments?

    There have been unaccountable wealth accumulation by certain sections of society in India's past, including religious institutions, etc.

    Have their wealth been accounted for?
    Last edited by maddhan1979; July 7th, 2017 at 07:20 AM.

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    India a big Christmas basket

    India acts as a big Christmas basket for the corrupt, the political sections, the religious sections and people with unaccounted wealth.

    Where is all the money going, no one knows.

    Past corruptions after the formation of so called "India" and so called "Independence", has not been accounted for.

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    There has little or no progress seen by governments in center and states to clean river systems in northwest India.

    One can say that central governments were different from state governments in past but there are states which have governments similar to states and nothing had been done even in those states.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; July 7th, 2017 at 07:21 AM.

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    There have been unaccountable scandals in the past, what has been done for that?

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    Automation of Jobs

    How much automation of Jobs is needed in everyday life in a country like India?

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    Recently heard the news that "Delhi Metro driving is being automated/ becoming diver less/no human required", looks odd in a country which is looking to employ a young working force.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; July 7th, 2017 at 07:22 AM.

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    Which countries/governments gather personal data on citizens in a centralized format?


    These are mostly the countries which ensure free basic needs of the people/citizens of the country.

    Such needs include free education at school and university level. (i.e. No commercialization of education), In, India it is opposite, education sector is totally commercialized and majority of it is in private sector and often private sector assisting the education sector of a country is also exploited.

    Free Medical help to its citizens is the most important basic necessity that governments need to provide for. In Indian context all of these are commercialized.

    Besides that there are other assistance in such countries given by the governments to its citizens.

    India has seen corruption as a part of machinery for a long time and there has been huge wealth accumulation by previous governments
    It is only now that electronic media has come into limelight that such issues are being discussed at national level.


    Governments which maintain centralized data accumulation for its citizens first ensure basic fundamental facilities for its citizens.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; July 16th, 2017 at 09:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    There is digitization of individual details happening though different means, AADHAR is one such scheme.

    Is it relevant for the country and people in current scenario?

    Government already gathers income data through Income tax authorities as in India income is directly related with corruption. Then, why do governments need to gather personal data like finger prints, etc., through aadhar scheme? Reason stated might be that intricate details of personal data might ease the work of authorities trying to manage the records, etc., this does not guarantee personal security of data being gathered by the government.

    It also does not guarantee individual freedom/individual security of any individual to share his own person details with any given authority permanently/on timely basis.

    Intricate personal information collection will only lead to increase in crime and complexity of data being gathered.

    It will increase burden on middle class and lower income groups who will not be able to have small savings, while the government has privatized education and medical facilities, which are very expensive for salaried/middle class/lower income groups and also not up to the standard. It seems policies of government are pushing middle class and majority of India into bad situation.

    It will lead to more false victimization of everyday person.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; August 1st, 2017 at 06:35 PM.

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