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    Word "Aayat"

    Is it possible that in ancient times Jats were more wide spread then the present boundary of Punjab?

    Word "Aayat",: "aa(come)+Yat", which has later origins in linguistic form, might indicate this trend.

    There might be other clues to this as well.

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    "aarathi utarna (sentence in Hindi)", it is interesting to see what kind of thought process would have advocated this sentence.

    In ancient times people travelled on Horses or "rath/s/Chariot"

    http://dict.hinkhoj.com/%E0%A4%B0%E0...-english.words


    so the sentence "aarathi utarna", "aa(come)+rathi(people travelling on rath or chariot) + utarna (pull them down from chariot)

    Interstingly this has an ancient meaning in India. It is a known fact that people from out of India travelled into India through horses and had skills to make chariots.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariot


    So, these ancient people who were travelling on horses and chariots were literally pulled down and were they put to "Hal", (an implement used to do agriculture) is another point. It might be so because there are lot of people who have origins in "Rath" culture and majority of these people are in rudimentary hard work of agriculture since ancient times.

    It seems that in due time these ancient "Rath/Chariot, riding tribes migrants to Indian subcontinent lost the insight into the ancient history and were put to "Hal".

    This might very well be a case of enslavement of these ancient tribes and putting them to "Hal" as we find a continuous agriculture and habitation times spans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    "aarathi utarna (sentence in Hindi)", it is interesting to see what kind of thought process would have advocated this sentence.

    In ancient times people travelled on Horses or "rath/s/Chariot"

    http://dict.hinkhoj.com/%E0%A4%B0%E0...-english.words


    so the sentence "aarathi utarna", "aa(come)+rathi(people travelling on rath or chariot) + utarna (pull them down from chariot)

    Interstingly this has an ancient meaning in India. It is a known fact that people from out of India travelled into India through horses and had skills to make chariots.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariot


    So, these ancient people who were travelling on horses and chariots were literally pulled down and were they put to "Hal", (an implement used to do agriculture) is another point. It might be so because there are lot of people who have origins in "Rath" culture and majority of these people are in rudimentary hard work of agriculture since ancient times.

    It seems that in due time these ancient "Rath/Chariot, riding tribes migrants to Indian subcontinent lost the insight into the ancient history and were put to "Hal".

    This might very well be a case of enslavement of these ancient tribes and putting them to "Hal" as we find a continuous agriculture and habitation times spans.

    Culture of "Rath", is associated with horses and "Chariotes", driven by horses. Horse domestication is central Asian in origin or might be more east toward's China/Mongolia in ancient past.

    This culture of "Rath", drivers also seem to exist in western cultures with similar words, representing these ancient nomadic people.

    Similar names can be found as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciano_Pavarotti
    Last edited by maddhan1979; August 7th, 2017 at 07:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    "aarathi utarna (sentence in Hindi)", it is interesting to see what kind of thought process would have advocated this sentence.

    In ancient times people travelled on Horses or "rath/s/Chariot"

    http://dict.hinkhoj.com/%E0%A4%B0%E0...-english.words


    so the sentence "aarathi utarna", "aa(come)+rathi(people travelling on rath or chariot) + utarna (pull them down from chariot)

    Interstingly this has an ancient meaning in India. It is a known fact that people from out of India travelled into India through horses and had skills to make chariots.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariot


    So, these ancient people who were travelling on horses and chariots were literally pulled down and were they put to "Hal", (an implement used to do agriculture) is another point. It might be so because there are lot of people who have origins in "Rath" culture and majority of these people are in rudimentary hard work of agriculture since ancient times.

    It seems that in due time these ancient "Rath/Chariot, riding tribes migrants to Indian subcontinent lost the insight into the ancient history and were put to "Hal".

    This might very well be a case of enslavement of these ancient tribes and putting them to "Hal" as we find a continuous agriculture and habitation times spans.
    Taking away of horses/Rath also meant that these tribes could not communicate with each other, as in ancient times, Horse/Rath/Chariot was a fast means of communication. This would have added to faster enslavement of these ancient tribes.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; August 6th, 2017 at 11:44 AM.

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    It is a known fact that certain clans/people, stopped having girl child and had the lowest sex ratio of male:female in the country.

    This also meant that at points of time or extended period of time these people were marrying into other tribes. So the looks/ the place people/ language might have changed over period of time

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    "aarathi utarna (sentence in Hindi)", it is interesting to see what kind of thought process would have advocated this sentence.

    In ancient times people travelled on Horses or "rath/s/Chariot"

    http://dict.hinkhoj.com/%E0%A4%B0%E0...-english.words


    so the sentence "aarathi utarna", "aa(come)+rathi(people travelling on rath or chariot) + utarna (pull them down from chariot)

    Interstingly this has an ancient meaning in India. It is a known fact that people from out of India travelled into India through horses and had skills to make chariots.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariot


    So, these ancient people who were travelling on horses and chariots were literally pulled down and were they put to "Hal", (an implement used to do agriculture) is another point. It might be so because there are lot of people who have origins in "Rath" culture and majority of these people are in rudimentary hard work of agriculture since ancient times.

    It seems that in due time these ancient "Rath/Chariot, riding tribes migrants to Indian subcontinent lost the insight into the ancient history and were put to "Hal".

    This might very well be a case of enslavement of these ancient tribes and putting them to "Hal" as we find a continuous agriculture and habitation times spans.

    Context of "Rath", seems to be very late in Indian history as compared to Before Christ migration, movement of the Army of Alexander the great toward's India, etc.,. Rath in this context only connects with people who were driving/riding Chariots irrespective of tribe and ethnicity.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; August 9th, 2017 at 08:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Context of "Rath", seems to be very late in Indian history as compared to Before Christ migration, movement of the Army of Alexander the great toward's India, etc.,. Rath in this context only connects with people who were driving/riding Chariots irrespective of tribe and ethnicity.
    What came first to Indian subcontinent? Horses or Rath/Chariots?

    It seems there might be a clue in the word "Rathi". Were armies/people able to enter into Indian subcontinent riding Chariots? I have my doubts, as in north were huge Himalayas with narrow passes and so were the other routes their own topography. Therefore it seems that people/armies came into India on horses. Such people must have had knowledge of making Chariots and then these people would have made Chariots and ridden these Chariots and would have been recognized through words that symbolize these people i.e. "Rathi".

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Is it possible that in ancient times Jats were more wide spread then the present boundary of Punjab?

    Word "Aayat",: "aa(come)+Yat", which has later origins in linguistic form, might indicate this trend.

    There might be other clues to this as well.

    Such words could also have emerged out of war situations

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