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    Reservation is our constitutional right

    Reservation is our constitutional right

    Sub: - Pray to grant of backward status to the Jat Community in Haryana irrespective of religion or sect.
    Hon’ble Sir,
    Kindly ref. to your office letter no. HBCC/2011/556 dt 6.9.11 and in continuation my representation dt. 27.6.2011. We have the honour to bring your kind notice the facts that follow on the basis of which , you are requested to secure justice for the entire Jat community in Haryana irrespective of religion or sect as per the following details :- At the time of drafting and framing of the Indian Constitution reservation as provided to all the depressed, Dalit and Tribal Communities as so as to achieve social justice for them and to ensure their upliftment on the social ladder, there after Govt. of India on Jan 20, 1953 Constituted a commission headed by Kaka Kalaelkar under article 340 of the Indian Constitution to provide reservation to other backward communities. The Commission submitted its report on March 20, 1955. But Since the report failed to clarify/identify such other Backward Classes on Social and Economic Basis, the Govt did not bring it before the parliament. The demand for reservation to Backward Classes, however, continues to be raised as a result of which Govt of India appointed another commission headed by Sh. B.P.Mandal on January 1st 1979, the commission submitted its report on Dec, 31 1980 and its recommendations were implemented after 10 years in August 1990. For granting Backward Class status a community , the constitution on India provides for only two conditions under article 15(4) and 340 (1) as Under :-
    1. social backwardness
    2. Educational backwardness

    1. ( Social backwardness ) (i) For determining the social backwardness of a community its parameter can include the social practice like HUKA-PANI, sharing on one platform and informal social interaction ( ) when members of those communities eat and drink water out of their utensils without any hitch and sit together with those of the other community on the same cot, the social status of communities so mixing and interacting are regarded as enjoying equal status. In this connection is neither below nor above but completely at par with its social status with other communities such as Ahir, Gujjar, Saini, Lodha, Khati , Luhar , Kumbhar , Nai and Kamboj etc those have been already declared as backwardness castes . To make it more authentic the book named A GLOSSARY OF THE TRIBES AND CASTES of the Punjab and North & West frontier province by Hon. Mr. E.D MacLAGAN, C.S.I, & H.A.Roge is also referred (Annexure-A enclosed at page no. 5 ) with regard to Sikh religion all the Sikh are equal before the Gurus as well as in the Gurudwaras but socially they are divided into the castes that is why the Jat Sikh are giving matrimonial for marriages alliances separately in the newspapers ( copy of newspaper attached as Annexure-B at the page no. 7 ). The same analogy applies for Mula Jat also, as they call themselves as Jats only, even after their conversion to Islam. It is Ironical that totally unjustified for the Mandal Commission in the list of backward classes and left only the jat community out of its ambit. It is clear – the Jat Community has the same social status as that of the community is found fit by the Mandal Commission for grant to them of backward status. (ii) To give more facts to prove that the Jat community is socially backward is that Hon’ble Lahore High Court in his judgment A.I.R 1936 Lahore 551 Jagindar V/s Kartara during 1936 declared that the Jat community as Sudras (copy of Annexure-C and C-1 attached at page no.8 & 13). To support this fact an OBC survey for the state Delhi was carried out during 1997-98 and status of Jat community was found more backward (copy of Annexure-D attached at page no-14). Moreover as per the version of Swami Dayananda in his book Satyarth Parkash, while explaining widow marriage, this Jat community is considered as Sudras Varna (copy of Annexure –E attached at page no-16). While determining social status of Jats found not only backward status but Sudras also in a reference to the Hindu Literature. It is also noticed that Pundits are showing the children of the Jats as Sudras while preparing their JANAM KUNDLIES, an example, a Janam Kundli of my younger son named Yogesh was prepared in Samvat 2032 proves the fact ( copy of Annexure-E-1 attached at page no.16 & 17). Moreover, a Jat history written by Kali Ranjan Kanoongo during 1925 also given many references showing Jat as a Sudras by some ancient writers (copy of Annexure -E-2 attached at page no-18). An autobiography as “Sawraj-Ke-Sawar” of Late Shri Ranbir Singh Hooda, father of the Chief Minister Shri Bhupinder Singh Hooda, had written that the Jats were being called “Sudra” (Annexure-E-3 attached at page no. 22). Though the Jats are not Sudra but surely a backward caste. The Mandal Commission in his report Chapter 8, para no. 8.40 page no.40, ( copy attached as an Annexure-F at page no.25) as noted that Yadav, Kurmi, Kohri and Jat are Backward Castes. It has further noted on this page that Choudhary Charan Singh in U.P. (1952) was a minister from a Backward Community. Moreover the entire media in the country in 1980, at the time when Ch. Charan Singh became the Prime Minister of India, clamored in one voice for the success of Indian Democracy by saying that it had chosen a person from a backward community to occupy the post of head of the Union Government. All this as about makes it more clear that Mandal Commission duly recognized the entire Jat community as a backward. But when state wise lists of backward communities were prepared, the Jats in Haryana & Punjab were listed as

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    "कर्म हैं जिसका भगवान, कौम वतन पर हैं जो कुर्बान |
    पगड़ी का जो रखे मान सच्चे जाट की यह पहचान ||


    कुछ हमारे संग चले आये गे .कुछ देख के रंग ढंग चले आये गे .बाकी बचे होके तंग चले आये गे !

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    (i) ‘Gutka & Chillan Jats’ whereas no such community or Gotra/Clan of Jats exist anywhere across the country. In this connection Mandal Commission report at page no.311 at Sr. No. 40 is referred (copy od Annexure-G attached at page No.26). When it was requested to the backward commission to clarify the above under RTI Act. The commission failed to proper reply of this matter (copy attached as an Annexure –H at page no.27). 2. (Educational backwardness) (i). The second condition to providing reservation to a community is that of educational backwardness. In order therefore, to determine the educational status of a community, the Mandal Commission asked each and every state of India to provide its community wise education data. But since no such data was ever collected by any state of the Union, the states expressed their helplessness in the matter (copy of page no.44 attached as an Annexure-I at page no.29). Thus having been left with no alternative to determine the education status of communities, the commission, using its own discretion, then deemed all the rural communities as educationally backward. To make its criteria look plausible, it cited the comparative example of the son of a rural farmer verses the son of a city based person (copy of page no.28 enclosed as Annexure-J at page no.30) and found the ruralite as educationally backward. Going by this logic of commission, the whole Jat community is educationally as 95% of Jats still live in villages even after 64 years Indian Independence. So it is clear that the Jat community fulfill the second condition also. A(i) Since the Constitution does not provide for any economic condition for determining the backwardness of any community, the Mandal Commission, on page no.60 of its report ( copy attached as an Annexure- K at page no-31 ) made it clear that there could be no such condition for reservation. Its argument against “it was that a person who was poor at one point of time might be rich at a point of time in future. Moreover, the commission said, being rich & poor might be a status which clever connected people might manipulate for themselves according to the situation. So it is very tricky game.” The Supreme Court however laid a condition to being rich or poor by laying down the condition of “creamy layer” which stipulates a personal annual income of 4 ½ lakh Rs at present for OBC only. Regarding economical conditions of the Jat community in Haryana is worst ever at present as 95% the community is depend on farming. 2001 census report says that 67% farmers in Haryana are having less than 5 acres of land holding which is now gone up more than 80% (copy attached as an Annexure-L at page no.32). Where as National Agriculture Commission report says that less than 10 acres of land holding is profession of deficit. It is well known that more than 90% farmers under debit and surviving with the Kissan Credit Card. Almost all the Vehicles purchased by the rural Jats are on loan from the banks. It can be verified from the banks easily. Thus it is clear that the Jat community is economically backward. A(ii) Gurnaam Singh Commission in its report at page no.28 clearly graded the Ahir and Saini communities are more economically sound than Jat community and at the same page commission quoted that the Jats can not be divided on religious ground (copy attached as an Annexure-M at page no-33). To prove the version of the commission that Ahir (Yadav) and Saini communities are economically sound than Jat community. It is ture for which i am enclosing herewith a few Khevat and Jamabandi showing land holdings of Jats, Ahir, Saini and Gujjar from tehsil Bawal (Distt. Rewari) and tehsil of Hansi (Distt. Hissar) for your kind perusal for further verification (enclosed as a special Annexure from pages 34 to 65). With regard to the jobs in Haryana Govt. Gazetted class-I and class-II services, the ratio of Jat community as per their population was very far less in compression to other castes (page no. 72 & 73 of the report is enclosed as an Annexure-N & O at page no. 66 & 67). Similarly the position of the community wise strength of the students admitted in B.E, M.B.B.S, B.A.M.S and B.V.S.E in Haryana during the year 1990-91 clearly mentioned the poor ratio of the Jat community in its report (page no. 78 at Annexure-P attached at page no.68). A(iii)This is how a frauel was played against the Jat community at the national level as well as at states by giving backward status in different states in different ways. When the demand for reservation to Jat community was raised in Haryana state, Govt, granted it along with 9 other communities in the state in February 1991 as per the recommendations of the Gurnaam Singh Commission. But because of the conspiracy of the political leaders who ruled this state at that point of time the reservation status to Jats was withdrawn after some months. To prove this fact, one OBC certificate in the name of Miss Sunita Devi D/o Sh. Bute Singh, Vill. Bhambewa, Teh Jhajjar, Distt. Rohtak from Jat community, duly signed by SDO(C) dt. 30.9.91 is enclosed as a ready reference (Annexure-Q enclosed at page no.69). All the other concerned records are available with the state Govt. of Haryana. B(i) When the demand for reservation to Jats was raised in other states like Delhi, M.P, Himachal Pradesh, Uttrakhand, U.P, and Bihar were given reservation in these states recognized the Jat Community as a backward caste. Rajasthan also granted this status to Jats at state and centre level both, leaving, however those belonging to the district of Bharatpur & Dholpur. Now this is a sheer irony that while many states regard Jats as backward, the Union Govt. regards them as forward. This situation has resulted into gross injustice to Jat community. It is a potent case of discrimination and high headness against a particular community. Moreover all the backward castes are being treated OBC across the country except the Jat community, under same Indian Constitution which provides two conditions for reservation i.e. Social backwardness and Educational backwardness. Sir, but the Jat community of Haryana did not keep par with the Jats of Delhi and U.P etc. as socially backward and educationally backward. It is ironical and totally unjustified. Sir, I beg to submit some more facts as under:- While Ch. Bhupender Singh Hudda was the Congress President of Haryana during 1999, he himself had put the pressure on Ch. Om Prakash Chautala then Chief Minister of Haryana, to review the report of Gurnaam Singh Commission for inclusion of Jat community into the O.B.C fold. He has also congratulated to the then Chief Minister of Rajasthan Sh. Ashok Gahlot and Delhi Chief Minister for taking positive steps by conferring OBC status to the Jats in their states ( press note dt. 20/10/99 attached as an Annexure –R at page no.70). Keeping in view of his own statement Ch. Bhupender Singh Hudda on becoming Chief Minister of Haryana has written D.O. letters No. 1479 and 1480 dt. 05.04.2010 to the All India Congress Committee President Smt. Sonia Gandhi and Dr. Manmohan Singh, Hon’ble Prime Minister of India for taking favorable action by conferring OBC status on Jats in Haryana and both D.O letters were confirmed under duly receipt dt.12th April and 22nd April 2010 respectively (Annexure –S attached at page no.71to74). Similarly the Hon’ble Chief Minister of Haryana has again written official letter No. 15913 dt. 28.06.2011 addressed to the Minister of Social Justice and Empowerment, Govt. of India duly recommended for inclusion of Jat community of Haryana into OBC fold (Annexure –T attached at page no.75). Sir, I beg to draw your kind attention that finding no other alternative, the Jat community of Haryana had to go on agitation by Rail Roko during the month of March 2011 with a result a meeting was held in chamber of Home Minister, Govt. of India among the Hon’ble Home Minister Shri. P. Chidambaram, Hon’ble Minister for Social Justice & Empowerment Shri. Mukul Vasnik and office bearers of All India Jat Arakshan Sanghrash Samiti to examine the demand. Both the central ministers have agreed in principle that the demand of Jat community is justified as well as judicious. Consequently, the central cabinet had delegated the power to review such cases by N.C.B.C on 3rd May 2011 under “The Gazette of India (Annexure –U attached at page no.76 & 77). Sir, I beg to bring into your kind notice that the Jat community of Utter Pradesh was conferred with OBC status as on 10.03.2000 and some persons belonging to the other castes knocked the door of Hon’ble High Court of Allahabad against this conferment, but the Hon’ble Court found this conferment completely judicious. A copy of the judgment is attached from page no.78 to 163 as an Annexure –V. Sir, I request once more for your attention towards a judgment dated 26th July 2010 of the Hon’ble High Court Punjab & Haryana against C.W.P No.19837-2009 filed by Yadav Kalyan Parishad Gurgaon against the bifurcation of OBC category into 11-16 ratio in Haryana which was found irrelevant by the Hon’ble

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    "कर्म हैं जिसका भगवान, कौम वतन पर हैं जो कुर्बान |
    पगड़ी का जो रखे मान सच्चे जाट की यह पहचान ||


    कुछ हमारे संग चले आये गे .कुछ देख के रंग ढंग चले आये गे .बाकी बचे होके तंग चले आये गे !

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    Court. A copy of the said judgment is attached herewith from page no.164 to 173 as an Annexure-W. Sir, Keeping in view of the above all facts, the Hon’ble Chief Minister of Haryana has again written to the Govt. of India for judicious cause of the Jat community in Haryana. (Annexure – X attached at page no.174). Moreover, Late Ch. Ranbir Singh Hudda, father of present Chief Minister of Haryana had himself established an “Akhil Bhartiya Pichhra Sangh” way back in sixties and in one of its functions the then Hon’ble Vice President of India Dr. Radha Krishan was also invited (Photo as an Annexure-Y attached at page no.175 while the Hon’ble Vice President was in the chair and Late Ch. Hudda was reading out the agenda). Keeping in view of the submission made above, you are earnestly prayed to use your good offices in helping injustice against Jats in Haryana be done away with and they should be brought at par with other BC’s and no discrimination be allowed to be made between Hindu Jats, Muslim Jats and Sikh Jats as they are equally placed the social setup all over India.
    Thanking you in anticipation
    Encl: Annexure-A to Y attached Total pages: 1 to 175
    8th September, 2011
    Yours Faithfully
    Hawa Singh Sangwan (Ex.Commandant CRPF)
    President, Haryana- AKHIL BHARTIYA JAT AARAKSHAN SANGHRASH SAMITI
    H.No. 1885, Sec. 13, Bhiwani (HR) 127021
    Mobile No. 094160-56145

    :- copies of this file have also already been handed over to the concerned ministries etc at the centre level.
    "कर्म हैं जिसका भगवान, कौम वतन पर हैं जो कुर्बान |
    पगड़ी का जो रखे मान सच्चे जाट की यह पहचान ||


    कुछ हमारे संग चले आये गे .कुछ देख के रंग ढंग चले आये गे .बाकी बचे होके तंग चले आये गे !

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    Sir,

    When you consider 'Reservation is our constitutional right' then why not move to High Court or Supreme Court of India for its implementation.

    I think, it is our demand.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    Sir,

    When you consider 'Reservation is our constitutional right' then why not move to High Court or Supreme Court of India for its implementation.

    I think, it is our demand.

    Thanks.
    डॉक्टर साहब आरक्षण की लिए राज्य व केंद्र सरकारों ने एक कमीशन का गठन किया हुआ और इन सबके लिए पहले आपको उस कमीशन के सामने जाना पड़ता हैं | कौर्ट कचहरी बाद की कार्यवाही होती हैं |
    हरियाणा में आरक्षण के लिए राज्य सरकार के कमीशन ने 11 -12 जनवरी 2012 की तारीख दे रखी हैं | केंद्र में आरक्षण के लिए राज्य के कमीशन से रिकमंड करवाना पड़ता हैं |
    " जाट हारा नहीं कभी रण में तीर तोप तलवारों से ,
    जाट तो हारा हैं , गद्दारों से दरबारों से
    |"

    " इस कौम का ईलाही दुखड़ा किसे सुनाऊ ?
    डर हैं के इसके गम में घुल घुल के न मर जाऊँ || "
    ...........................चौ.छोटूराम ओहल्याण

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    Friend,
    I wanted to convey that so long some right is not added to the pages of Indian Constitution, it cannot be called Constitutional right.

    However you have rightly informed that you are putting the demand for reservation for consideration of the Commission. This also makes clear that you are trying to make it Constitutional right by pleading the case of the community.

    Please keep it up!

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    We all support this demand. Keep it up !!!
    Laxman Burdak

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    Ravinder Suraji's letter has been posted in Jatland Wiki for records at one place.

    See under Haryana - [Wiki]Reservation in Jobs for OBC[/Wiki]

    Thanks.
    Laxman Burdak

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  17. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    Ravinder Suraji's letter has been posted in Jatland Wiki for records at one place.

    See under Haryana - Reservation in Jobs for OBC

    Thanks.
    बुरडक साहब आपने यो नरेश कादीयान कित पा गया | जो अपनी ही कौम के लोगो को मारने मरवाने की बात करता हो उसको ऐसी जगह तवज्जु नहीं देनी चाहिए | इसको पता ही नहीं आरक्षण क्या हैं | हाजरी मारो से सावधान |
    " जाट हारा नहीं कभी रण में तीर तोप तलवारों से ,
    जाट तो हारा हैं , गद्दारों से दरबारों से
    |"

    " इस कौम का ईलाही दुखड़ा किसे सुनाऊ ?
    डर हैं के इसके गम में घुल घुल के न मर जाऊँ || "
    ...........................चौ.छोटूराम ओहल्याण

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    11 जातियों के सुझाव हुए शामिल


    Jan 12, 02:17 am








    हिसार, जागरण संवाददाता :

    बुधवार को शहर के रेस्ट हाउस में हरियाणा पिछड़ा आयोग ने विभिन् न जातियों को पिछड़ा वर्ग में शामिल करने की अपीलों पर सुनवाई की। इसमें जिले के 11 जातियों के व्यक्तिगत सुझाव को स्वीकार किया गया। बैठक में जिले के सभी जातियों के करीब 46 प्रतिनिधि मंडलों ने आयोग को प्रार्थना पत्र दिया था। बैठक में हिसार के अलावा तीन अन्य जिलों के भी प्रतिनिधि मंडल के सुझाव लिए गए।
    बृहस्पतिवार को इस बैठक में हिसार के अलावा भिवानी, फतेहाबाद व सिरसा के प्रतिवेदन भी लिए जाएंगे। इसके बाद शाम 4.30 बजे तक इन सुझावों को पिछड़ा वर्ग में शामिल करने के लिए सूची तैयार की जाएगी। साथ ही जिले के अधिकारियों से भी इस विषय पर विचार- विमर्श किया जाएगा। इस मौके पर प्रेस वार्ता को संबोधित करते हुए आयोग के चेयरमैन जस्टिस केसी गुप्ता ने कहा कि उच्चतम न्यायालय द्वारा दिए गए निर्देशों के अनुसार विभिन्न जातियों से आए हुए सुझाव व आपत्तियों का निजी संस्था के माध्यम से सामाजिक, शैक्षणिक व आर्थिक स्तर पर सर्वे कराया जाएगा, जिसकी जांच के आधार पर उन्हें पिछड़ा वर्ग में शामिल करने की सिफारिश की जाएगी। उन्होंने कहा कि 16 व 17 जनवरी को जींद में विभिन्न जातियों के प्रतिनिधि मंडलों के सुझाव लिए जाएंगे। वहीं अन्य जिलों के लिए जल्द बैठक कर प्रतिनिधि मंडलों के सुझाव लिए जाएंगे। उसके बाद प्रदेश के सभी जिलों में जाकर पिछड़ा वर्ग में शामिल होने के लिए विभिन्न जातियों के प्रतिनिधि मंडलों से सुझाव लिए जाएंगे। उन्होंने कहा कि आयोग जाट, सिख जट, रोड, त्यागी व बिश्नोई जाति के गजट नोटिफिकेशन पर विशेष कार्य कर रहा है। उन्होंने कहा कि सभी जातियों के प्रतिनिधि मंडल या व्यक्ति अपनी माग/एतराज दर्ज करा सकते हैं। इस मौके पर जयसिंह बिश्नोई, सोमदत्त, अर्जुन देव गुलाटी तथा सचिव एसके सेतिया सहित अन्य गणमान्य लोग उपस्थित थे।
    प्रोफेसर की भी ली जाएगी मदद
    पिछड़ा आयोग ने विभिन्न जातियों को इस वर्ग में शामिल करने के लिए प्रदेश के विभिन्न विश्वविद्यालयों के प्रोफेसर सहित सरकारी व सांख्यिकी विभाग के आंकड़ों को शामिल करने का निर्णय लिया है। इस बारे में आयोग के चेयरमैन ने कहा कि प्रोफेसर प्रदेश की जातियों पर रिसर्च करते हैं, जिसके आधार पर उनके आर्थिक, सामाजिक व शैक्षणिक स्तर का पता लगाने में काफी मदद मिलेगी। इसके अलावा सरकारी एजेंसियों के माध्यम से भी सर्वे करवाई जा रही है। इसके लिए प्रोफार्मा भी तैयार कर लिया गया है। सारे सर्वे का निष्कर्ष निकालकर ही आयोग प्रदेश सरकार को इस बारे में रिपोर्ट प्रस्तुत की करेगी।
    छंटाई के बाद बचे हुए प्रार्थना पत्र

    हिसार से 15
    भिवानी से 8
    सिरसा से 8
    फतेहाबाद से 4
    नहीं मिला न्याय तो होगा आंदोलन : सांगवान
    जाट आरक्षण समिति के प्रदेश प्रधान हवा सिंह सांगवान ने कहा कि आयोग ने सभी बातों से अवगत करा दिया गया है, जिस पर विचार कर आगे की रणनीति बनाई जाएगी। उन्होंने कहा कि यदि आयोग उनकी मांग पर सकारात्मक रुख नहीं दिखाता तो आंदोलन किया जाएगा। समिति में चल रहे विवाद के बारे में उन्होंने कहा कि यशपाल मलिक द्वारा चुनाव में कांग्रेस के विरोध को वह स्वीकार नहीं करते। बल्कि सरकार के खिलाफ आंदोलन करेंगे।

    " जाट हारा नहीं कभी रण में तीर तोप तलवारों से ,
    जाट तो हारा हैं , गद्दारों से दरबारों से
    |"

    " इस कौम का ईलाही दुखड़ा किसे सुनाऊ ?
    डर हैं के इसके गम में घुल घुल के न मर जाऊँ || "
    ...........................चौ.छोटूराम ओहल्याण

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  21. #11
    New Delhi


    Government turns focus on Jat quota

    Saubhadra Chatterji, Hindustan Times
    New Delhi, January 14, 2012









    Khurshid lands up in another controversy


    After giving minorities 4.5% sub-quota, the government has kick-started the process to look into the claim of Jats in the OBC quota for central government jobs and higher education.

    National Commission for Backward Classes (NCBC) has approved a “social and cultural study” to prepare its report on whether or not Jats across states should be included in the central OBC list.







    “A proposal to include Jats in the central OBC list was earlier rejected. Last year, the NCBC got legal power to re-open cases that were earlier shot down. We will look into all issues that were rejected,” said NCBC member Shakeel-uz-Zaman Ansari. Inclusion of Jats as OBC has also been a key issue for political parties. Last month, while joining the UPA, Jat leader and RLD chief Ajit Singh met home minister P Chidambaram to expedite the process of inclusion of Jats in the OBC list. Uttar Pradesh CM Mayawati shot letters to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh last year to include Jats of UP in the central list.
    In 1999, then AB Vajpayee government had included only Jats of Rajasthan (excluding two districts) in the central OBC list.
    The Jat population in India is believed to be around 8.25 crore. In UP, the caste comprises less than 6% of population but their dense presence in the state’s western part affects more than 50 assembly seats.
    States, including Rajasthan and UP, have already given Jats the OBC status in their state lists. Himachal Pradesh, Delhi, Uttarakhand, Madhya Pradesh and Chhattisgarh are among the other states that consider Jats as OBC.
    The social and cultural study will be done by a government agency. It will look into the claims made by various Jat groups to the NCBC and the government about the caste’s linkages with OBCs like Aahir, Kurmi, etc. and their economic and social status.
    “It will also take into consideration the objections raised by some other organizations against including Jats in the central OBC list,” said a source.
    " जाट हारा नहीं कभी रण में तीर तोप तलवारों से ,
    जाट तो हारा हैं , गद्दारों से दरबारों से
    |"

    " इस कौम का ईलाही दुखड़ा किसे सुनाऊ ?
    डर हैं के इसके गम में घुल घुल के न मर जाऊँ || "
    ...........................चौ.छोटूराम ओहल्याण

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  23. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by raka View Post
    New Delhi




    Government turns focus on Jat quota

    Saubhadra Chatterji, Hindustan Times
    New Delhi, January 14, 2012









    Khurshid lands up in another controversy


    After giving minorities 4.5% sub-quota, the government has kick-started the process to look into the claim of Jats in the OBC quota for central government jobs and higher education.

    National Commission for Backward Classes (NCBC) has approved a “social and cultural study” to prepare its report on whether or not Jats across states should be included in the central OBC list.







    “A proposal to include Jats in the central OBC list was earlier rejected. Last year, the NCBC got legal power to re-open cases that were earlier shot down. We will look into all issues that were rejected,” said NCBC member Shakeel-uz-Zaman Ansari. Inclusion of Jats as OBC has also been a key issue for political parties. Last month, while joining the UPA, Jat leader and RLD chief Ajit Singh met home minister P Chidambaram to expedite the process of inclusion of Jats in the OBC list. Uttar Pradesh CM Mayawati shot letters to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh last year to include Jats of UP in the central list.
    In 1999, then AB Vajpayee government had included only Jats of Rajasthan (excluding two districts) in the central OBC list.
    The Jat population in India is believed to be around 8.25 crore. In UP, the caste comprises less than 6% of population but their dense presence in the state’s western part affects more than 50 assembly seats.
    States, including Rajasthan and UP, have already given Jats the OBC status in their state lists. Himachal Pradesh, Delhi, Uttarakhand, Madhya Pradesh and Chhattisgarh are among the other states that consider Jats as OBC.
    The social and cultural study will be done by a government agency. It will look into the claims made by various Jat groups to the NCBC and the government about the caste’s linkages with OBCs like Aahir, Kurmi, etc. and their economic and social status.
    “It will also take into consideration the objections raised by some other organizations against including Jats in the central OBC list,” said a source.
    All for making the Jat's fool again. These news are created for the UP polls, after the polls, these would be forgotten as usual.

    It's likely that this game would be understood by the Jats this time and that they would give their reply via the ballots. I hope Congress man are listening, their game can not continue forever...

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  25. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Arvindc View Post
    All for making the Jat's fool again. These news are created for the UP polls, after the polls, these would be forgotten as usual.

    It's likely that this game would be understood by the Jats this time and that they would give their reply via the ballots. I hope Congress man are listening, their game can not continue forever...
    गणा तो बेरा कोणी के कुन्सा जाट हितेषी स आर कुन्सा जाट विरोधी पर इसमें इस चटर्जी ने सारे राजनीतिक दल कांग्रेस , लोकदल , बसपा अर्र भाजपा सब जाट हितेषी बता दिए गेर ल्यो इब किसके वोट गेरोगे | बाणिया आल्ली करदी सारे राजी कर दिए उत् ने
    " जाट हारा नहीं कभी रण में तीर तोप तलवारों से ,
    जाट तो हारा हैं , गद्दारों से दरबारों से
    |"

    " इस कौम का ईलाही दुखड़ा किसे सुनाऊ ?
    डर हैं के इसके गम में घुल घुल के न मर जाऊँ || "
    ...........................चौ.छोटूराम ओहल्याण

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  27. #14

    Double standards of The Congress

    The very news story of Ajit Singh approaching the law ministry for consideration of reservation for Jats is politically motivated to reap votes. We all know that during the electioneering no fresh announcements including reservations for Jats can be made.

    IN the case of muslims, the govt. very cleverly announced reservation just before election dates were announced by Chief Election Commissioner Shahbuddin Yaqoob Quraishi.

    Mr. Hooda immediately without any second thought announced second language status to Punjabi language, but when it comes to Jat reservation, he develops cold feet. And my gullible Jat brothers feel proud on having a Jat CM. Mr. Hooda could have done so much for the Jats starting with reservations. When Yadav CMs of UP and Bihar while remaining in power can do so much for Yadavs (OBCs), why not a Jat CM for Jats?? Yadavs are OBCs and yet the are a progressive community having high standards of education, landholdings, govt. and private jobs, businesses - yet they are backward. Jats are cab drivers, security guards, don't occupy higher echelons of govt. and pvt. sector jobs, have diminishing landholdings and yet the govt. says - they are not a backward community.

    Shame on the Govt.

    As far as the Jats are concerned, Mr. Hooda is no different from the Jat-hater and Jat-baiter Kuldeep Bishnoi. Mr. Hooda will again remember Jat reservation during next assembly elections. He can at least immediately implement reservation for Jats in Haryana - which I am confident he WOULD NOT.

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  29. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by AbhikRana View Post
    The very news story of Ajit Singh approaching the law ministry for consideration of reservation for Jats is politically motivated to reap votes. We all know that during the electioneering no fresh announcements including reservations for Jats can be made.

    IN the case of muslims, the govt. very cleverly announced reservation just before election dates were announced by Chief Election Commissioner Shahbuddin Yaqoob Quraishi.

    Mr. Hooda immediately without any second thought announced second language status to Punjabi language, but when it comes to Jat reservation, he develops cold feet. And my gullible Jat brothers feel proud on having a Jat CM. Mr. Hooda could have done so much for the Jats starting with reservations. When Yadav CMs of UP and Bihar while remaining in power can do so much for Yadavs (OBCs), why not a Jat CM for Jats?? Yadavs are OBCs and yet the are a progressive community having high standards of education, landholdings, govt. and private jobs, businesses - yet they are backward. Jats are cab drivers, security guards, don't occupy higher echelons of govt. and pvt. sector jobs, have diminishing landholdings and yet the govt. says - they are not a backward community.

    Shame on the Govt.

    As far as the Jats are concerned, Mr. Hooda is no different from the Jat-hater and Jat-baiter Kuldeep Bishnoi. Mr. Hooda will again remember Jat reservation during next assembly elections. He can at least immediately implement reservation for Jats in Haryana - which I am confident he WOULD NOT.
    Nonetheless, we should remember the non-Jat CM days of Congress rule in Haryana. At least Mr Hooda is doing a good job of protecting the Jat's against systematic discrimination. Any Congress MLA/MP would tell you the amount of pressure from the non-Jat community on Mr Hooda.

  30. #16

    Mr. Hooda remembers he is a Jat only at the time of elections

    Jats are already marginalised in Haryana and this trend is progressing further.

    How many Jats occupy top judicial and bureaucratic posts in Haryana in proportion to their population size? How many principal secretaries, home secretaries, justices and Chief Justices??

    In industrial areas, how many inspections and audits are done to find out and ensure that locals are employed in Industries. States like Gujarat and Himachal ensure that local manpower from the state is employed and given preference over others. But Mr. Hooda is busy giving licences to builders and others at such a pace that it seems he believes in the philosophy that there is no tomorrow.

    If other states can give reservation to Jats, why not a JAT CM in Haryana especially so when Haryana has a sizeable number of Jat MLAs and MPs. There is clear lack of political will. Let's not blame pressure from Non-Jats for this lack of political will. And also, if there is pressure from Non-Jats, where does this pressure go when Mr. Hooda promises reservations during election time?????

    How simple it is to fool our community - these politicians only remember they are Jats at the time of elections. When the whole Jat community will stand behind any decision on Jat reservation, what is Mr. Hooda afraid of?? If he still can't use this people power, the only thing responsible for this is Indifference towards your community.

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  32. #17
    विभिन्न संगठनों ने मांगा आरक्षण





    Jan 17, 08:07 pm







    जींद, मुख्य संवाददाता : हरियाणा पिछड़ा वर्ग आयोग के चेयरमैन केसी गुप्ता के समक्ष समाज के विभिन्न संगठनों के प्रतिनिधियों ने अपनी-अपनी जातियों के लिए ओबीसी में आरक्षण मांगा तो कुछ संगठनों ने अतिरिक्त जातियों को आरक्षण का खुला विरोध भी किया।
    दो दिन से जींद के लोक निर्माण विश्राम गृह में हरियाणा पिछड़ा वर्ग आयोग के चेयरमैन केसी गुप्ता के अलावा सदस्य जय सिंह बिश्नोई, सोमदत्त, अर्जुन देव गुलाटी तथा इसके सचिव एसके सेतिया सुनवाई के लिए आए हुए हैं। गत दिवस समाज के विभिन्न वर्ग के सैकड़ों लोगों ने आयोग के समक्ष पेश होकर जातियों के लिए ओबीसी में आरक्षण लेने की मांग की। जाट समुदाय के लोगों ने जाटों को ओबीसी में शामिल किए जाने की बात कही। हरियाणा प्रदेश संयुक्त जाट आरक्षण संघर्ष समिति के प्रदेशाध्यक्ष ओमप्रकाश मान, सर्वजातीय बिनैन खाप के प्रधान नफे सिंह नैन, दूनी चंद, कुलदीप ढांडा, जाट आरक्षण संघर्ष समिति के सतवीर भनवाला समेत काफी लोगों ने चेयरमैन के समक्ष पेश होकर जाट, जट सिक्ख बिश्नोई जाट, मुस्लिम जाटों को आरक्षण दिए जाने की मांग की। ओमप्रकाश मान के नेतृत्व में जाटों का प्रतिनिधिमंडल हरियाणा पिछड़ा वर्ग आयोग के चेयरमैन केसी गुप्ता से मिला। उधर बिनैन खाप के प्रधान नफे सिंह नैन ने विस्तार से जाटों की स्थिति से उन्हें अवगत कराया और कहा कि जाटों को आरक्षण दिलाने के लिए पिछले तीन-चार वर्षो से जाट संघर्षरत हैं और कई बार इसके लिए मुख्यमंत्री भूपेंद्र सिंह हुड्डा के साथ-साथ देश के प्रधानमंत्री डॉ. मनमोहन सिंह से भी मिल चुके हैं। यही नहीं कई बार रैलियों का आयोजन कर अपनी मांगों को विस्तार पूर्वक रख चुके हैं। आज सबसे ज्यादा खराब स्थिति जाटों की है, इसलिए जाटों को आरक्षण मिलता बहुत जरूरी है। हरियाणा प्रदेश संयुक्त जाट आरक्षण समिति ने आरक्षण के लिए अपनी दलील में कहा कि इन जातियों को अब आरक्षण जरूरी चाहिए। इसके अलावा रोढ़ महासभा ने भी आयोग के सामने पेश होकर आर्थिक, सामाजिक तथा शैक्षणिक रूप से इस समुदाय के पिछड़ा होने के आधार पर ओबीसी में आरक्षण दिए जाने की मांग की। उधर दूसरी ओर ब्राह्मण आरक्षण संघर्ष समिति के प्रदेशाध्यक्ष हरिराम दीक्षित ने हरियाणा पिछड़ा वर्ग आयोग के सामने ब्राह्मणों को आरक्षण दिए जाने के लिए जो दलील दी, उसमें कहा गया कि ब्राह्मण समाज का आर्थिक स्तर आज हरियाणा में सबसे नीचे है। हरियाणा से 20 प्रतिशत ब्राह्मण खराब आर्थिक हालत के कारण गुजरात, राजस्थान, हिमाचल प्रदेश, महाराष्ट्र आदि राज्यों में पलायन कर गए हैं। आयोग के सामने ब्राह्मण आरक्षण संघर्ष समिति ने यह बात भी उजागर की कि उत्तर प्रदेश के बनारस में 80 प्रतिशत रिक्शा चलाने वाले ब्राह्मण समुदाय के लोग हैं।
    उधर जिला सर्व ब्राह्मण सभा कैथल ने ब्राह्मणों को आर्थिक आधार पर सरकारी नौकरियों में आरक्षण देने की बात कही। प्रधान धर्मपाल शर्मा ने बताया कि ब्राह्मण समाज हरियाणा में आर्थिक, सामाजिक एवं शैक्षणिक तौर पर बुरी तरह से पिछड़ा हुआ है। हरियाणा में ब्राह्मणों की आबादी 16 प्रतिशत है, लेकिन सरकारी नौकरियों में केवल एक या डेढ़ प्रतिशत है।

    उधर हरियाणा पिछड़ा वर्ग जन मोर्चा के प्रधान सूर्य प्रकाश के नेतृत्व में भी आयोग को दिए गए मांग पत्र में मांग की गई कि अब फिर पांच जातियों को पिछड़े वर्गो में शामिल हेतु हरियाणा सरकार ने द्वितीय पिछड़ा वर्ग आयोग का गठन किया है। ये सभी जातियां, आर्थिक, सामाजिक, राजनीतिक, शैक्षणिक दृष्टि से अग्रणीय है। प्रतिनिधिमंडल द्वारा दिए गए ज्ञापन में पिछड़े वर्ग अन्य किसी जाति को शामिल न किया जाए।
    बैरागी सभा ने कई जातियों को पिछड़ा वर्ग में शामिल नहीं करने की लगाई गुहार
    हरियाणा बैरागी सभा ने जाट, जाट सिक्ख, रोड़, त्यागी व बिश्नोई जातियों को पिछड़े वर्गो की सूची में सम्मिलित नहीं करने बारे चेयरमैन केसी गुप्ता को गुहार लगाई है। प्रदेशाध्यक्ष इंद्र सिंह बैरागी के नेतृत्व में लोगों ने चेयरमैन को मांग पत्र सौंपा और कहा कि समाज में जाट जाति का सदैव दबंग अग्रणी सम्मानीय व चौधर का स्थान रहा है। इनको कभी भी सामाजिक तिरस्कृत शब्द से नहीं पुकारा गया। पिछले दिनों जाटों ने आरक्षण प्राप्त करने के लिए लगभग 21 दिनों तक रेलवे ट्रैक व सड़कों को जाम कर दिया था और राष्ट्रीय संपत्ति का अरबों रुपये का नुकसान हुआ था।


    " जाट हारा नहीं कभी रण में तीर तोप तलवारों से ,
    जाट तो हारा हैं , गद्दारों से दरबारों से
    |"

    " इस कौम का ईलाही दुखड़ा किसे सुनाऊ ?
    डर हैं के इसके गम में घुल घुल के न मर जाऊँ || "
    ...........................चौ.छोटूराम ओहल्याण

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  34. #18
    Jai ye doosre logg OBC mai ghuss ke ge tai Jaat kai palle ke padega..baaki ek baat to sai..Jaat khaawe goli, bhunda banne sabkai shaami arr fayda aur logg tha le jaawe sain!
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  36. #19
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/C...w/11595720.cms

    The study by NCBC could be a blow to Jat's claim for inclusion in central OBC list. What about study on other castes in Delhi enjoying the benefits of OBC. I am sure if a study is conducted on Yadavs/ Gujjars status in Delhi, you will find the same results. Reason being, NCR is a hub of industries. Unemployment is very low comparing other areas. Infact Gujjars/Yadav are landlords in the NCR region and also in South Haryana. Jats never get the equal treatment.

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  38. #20
    NGO opposes Jats’ inclusion in OBC category
    Tribune News Service
    Chandigarh, January 23
    A non-government organisation headed by a former spokesman of the Haryana Congress has indirectly opposed the inclusion of the Jats in the category of the other backward classes (OBC) for the purposes of reservation in jobs and educational institutions.
    The president of the Gramin Bharat, Ved Prakash Vidrohi, a close associate of Gurgaon MP Rao Inderjit Singh, has written to the Chairman of the Haryana Backward Classes Commission, Justice KC Gupta (retd), urging him to collect data about the educational status and its share in the government jobs before including any caste in the category of the OBC.
    Pointing out that according to the Constitution, only those castes could be included in the category of the OBC, which were socially and educationally backward, Vidrohi claimed that in Haryana a particular caste, which was not backward in any manner, wanted to be included in the OBC category “on the basis of its numerical and political strength”.
    Admitting that every caste had a right to stake its claim for the inclusion in the OBC category, Vidrohi said it would be better to ascertain if that caste was really backward by taking into account the data about the educational, economic and social status of that caste.
    Vidrohi also urged the commission to make the data public so that it could be debated. He said it was necessary to collect the date as suggested by him to ensure that there would be no injustice towards the castes who were already in the OBC category.

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