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New gotra

Sir i dont know why are you relating khare of west u.p with grandson of krishna or khir whatever. Khare were migrated from the punjab in 18 century . They are from khehra s in punjab khehra or khaira are called khara in local language and from khara they have also became khare in some of the regions of punjab also. Sir i want clear some doubts related to the khare jats living in the west u.p. I ll be waiting for your reply ... Mayank rasulpur

New Page on Aurangzeb

Burdak ji, Namaste. I have created a new page - Aurangzeb. You may expand it suitably. Please also give more links in the bottom of the page "Jatland Links". Thanks. --Dndeswal (talk) 04:58, 2 February 2015 (EST)

wanted to know about a jatt gotra

hello sir,

sir,i wanted to know about the history of virdi gotra of jats,its origin,its reference,can u let me know about this gotras ancient history,i will be very thankful to you

Balram Singh Vs. Bal Ram Jat

Burdak ji, Namaste. Please check these pages - Bal Ram Jat and Balram Singh. I doubt it is the same person. If so, please get the pages merged. Dndeswal (talk) 02:20, 2 March 2015 (EST)

Bal Ram Jat (Sorot) but Balram Singh (Teotia). Both are different. Laxman Burdak (talk) 02:35, 2 March 2015 (EST)

history about jatt gotra

sir,information regarding this gotra on internet is not correct as those are editing by individual i wanted to know is this gotra virdi having any alternate ancient name or different name in history,,so as to find its roots from history,,any gazzetts regarding this gotra

Gujarat Jat officers


grt efforts, some corrections for the page Jats in Gujarat.

Jat officers in Gujarat.

Mahavir Singh Dagar - IAS 1984 batch , P S Narmada and Water Resources Department, Gujarat Tirth Raj Singh - IPS, 1991 batch, ADGP, Human Rights. Ajay Tomar - IG - BSF, New delhi(on deputation) Smt. Sunaina Tomar - IAS from Rajasthan, Jt. Sec, Textiles Ministry(on deputation) Shamsher Singh - IG - ACB, Gujarat. Ajay Bhadu - IAS 1999 batch, PS to CM, originally from Sikar Rajasthan. Vijay Nehra - IAS 2001 batch, Rajkot Municipal Commissioner, originally from Sihot Chhoti (Sikar), Rajasthan. Sandeep Singh - IPS 2004 batch, Surat Rural SP, From shamli (gotra chauhan) Anil Dhaka - IRS 2004, Additional Commissioner Income Tax, Ahmedabad. Rajkumar Beniwal - IAS 2004 batch , Collector Ahmedabad, originally from Mandawara, Hindaun, Karauli, Rajasthan. Rajesh Manjhu - IAS 2004 batch, Jt. Secy to Govt., (Budget), Finance Deptt, Gandhinagar. Manish Godara - IRS 2007 batch, Deputy Commisioner Customs, Gandhidham. Dharmveer Tandi - IRAS 2008 batch, Railways, Bhavnagar.(from Jodhpur) Vidhi chaudhary - IPS 2009 batch, DCP Zone 7, Ahmedabad.(from balsamand, nagaur) Ram Ratan Nala - IFS 2011 batch, DCF - GIR, Junagad( from merta, nagaur) Sanjeev Chahar - IRS 2011 batch, ADIT - Gandhidham(investigation wing) (from chirawa, Jhunjhunu) Gautam Singh Chaudhary - IRS 2012 batch, ACIT Baroda.(from khinvsar, Nagaur) Dharmendra Punia, IRS 2012, ADIT Jamnagar. Sharavan Ram, IRS 2012, Customs, Surat.(from merta, nagaur) Vikram Singh Malik, IAS 2012, Daman, (agmut cadre) Praveen Chaudhary, IAS 2013, SDM Kheda, (from balsamand, nagaur) Mohan Ram Legha, IFS 2013, ACF, Vyara, Narmada. Vikas Siyol, GJS 2012, JFCM Ahmedbabd.(from Barmer)(son in law of Sawai Singh Godara IPS) Himanshu Chaudhary, GJS 2012, JFCM Anand.(from Bikaner) Narendra Singh, GJS 2012, JFCM Junagad.(from nagaur) Sunil Chaudhary, GJS 2012,Viramgam Arjun Singh, GJS 2012, Bharuch -- by Rynsingh

Thanks Singh Saheb for corrections. I have updated all concerned pages on Wiki. Laxman Burdak (talk) 02:49, 29 May 2015 (EDT)

दहिया गोत्र

आदरणीय लक्ष्मण जी,

आपके जाट क्लाण और जाट वंश के ऊपर लिखे आर्टिकल को पढ़ा, उसे पढ़ने में कुछ असुविधा हुई क्योंकि वह हिंदी में नहीं था और दूसरी बात यह की एक वंश में 2 गोत्र हो सकते है पर एक गोत्र में 2 वंश नहीं हो सकते परंतु दहिया गोत्र नागवंश में भी है और सूर्यवंश में भी ऐसा क्यों कृपया इस बारे में जानकारी दे ।

अभिमन्यू जी ऐसा प्रतीत होता है कि मूल रूप से दहिया चंद्रवंशी हैं परंतु नागवंशियों में से कुछ लोग दहिया राज्य संघ में सम्मिलित हुये होंगे जिसके कारण दहिया को नागवंश कुछ इतिहासकारों द्वारा बताया जा रहा है। खोज जारी है। अंतिम रूप से तथ्यों का पता लगने पर सुधार किया जाएगा। Laxman Burdak (talk) 03:36, 29 May 2015 (EDT)

Duplicate files need to be cleaned up

Please see Special:ListDuplicatedFiles - click on the "has a duplicate" link... Links should be updated and dupes deleted (in most cases only one of the file is linked from any content page.

Image attributes

When defining the size of thumbnails, we need to use only standard sizes - lets say 150px, 300px ONLY.

using multiple sizes can cause significant issue with client side performance (and server load). every defined size is cached to improve render speed. however, this leads to multiple files being created (everytime a new size is specified), all of which then need to be downloaded to the client side which actually slows the user experience. user side caching, which is supposed to speed up performance becomes ineffective.

example: [ [File:Ratlam district - 2.jpg|thumb|400px|Location of Badauta in Ratlam District] ] in Badauda_Ratlam - there are 6 different attributes used for this file on different pages.

Similarly, Bhilwara_District2.jpg has 11 different attributes currently.

Please discuss with other mods and settle on standardization (2, or maybe 3 sizes at most). as we edit pages, ideally we'd change all attribute size if they are different from standards...

keje and meware jat

Please explain about these two cateogories of jats of mandsaur district of madhya pradesh, who are keje jats and who are meware jats and which gotras come in keje and which come in meware and why they do not have martial relations. Thank u

hello, please change Lochan Sehra - IAS 2002 batch , IG stamps, originally from Sikroda Jatt (Hindaun), Karauli, Rajasthan. is from meena community.


K C Dahiya's book


In continuation to our telephonic discussion, I have gone through the contents of wikified book ending with .

I do not think it is worthwhile to give undeserving importance to such stuff on Jatland wiki which has its own worth and authenticity as regards reconstruction of history of the Jats.

The page of the book under reference have no sort of historical evidence, no systematic connectivity of thought or events or narration. Language : less said better.

Now it is up to you to decide one way or the other. Kindly consult DN Deswal ji also on the issue. DrRajpalSingh (talk) 02:44, 5 October 2015 (EDT)


Burdakji what is roll back as mentioned on the wiki recent changes page and what role a moderator has in this function.

DrRajpalSingh (talk) 02:42, 5 October 2015 (EDT).

K C Dahiya's book

He has sent the raw matter through email for helping you out to do wikifying. But on reading it I do not find any coherence, comprehensiveness of the raw matter. It is totally haphazard stuff. I have told him on phone that it requires re-writing in proper format of a book so that we could then re-arrange its wikifying.

But he is not ready to listen and persists that we edit and do further wikiying. What can we do now.

DrRajpalSingh (talk) 02:55, 5 October 2015 (EDT)

Same Village have Multiple Pages

Burdak Ji, Please check these two pages pages. These two pages belongs to the same village.

Burdak Saheb, Kindly redirect link this page to Sources of Mughal History‎. Thanks

--DrRajpalSingh (talk) 11:18, 4 November 2015 (EST)

naga gotra add krane k liye

sir banthali teh. deoli distt. tonk me gana/gaina(20), dhayal(5), seshma(1) and naga(1) clan k jat rahte h par Banthali me naga gotra nahi batayi gayi h ath: aapse nivedan h ki naga gotra bhi add krne ki kripa kre


Mukesh Gaina (banthali tonk) Ph.D. scholar Mpuat udaipur 9660271919 aapke number /9660271919 par send krne ki kirpa kre


Regarding wiki page --- created by you, I would like to know if Piyus Goyal is Jat to find place on Jatland wiki.

Thanks Dr Raj Pal Singh 27th Nov 2015

Reply on this issue still awaited from your side. This is important point as if he were non Jat and given space here on wiki then uncontrollable intrusion of non jats would start on wiki.

--DrRajpalSingh (talk) 10:59, 15 December 2015 (EST)


The following contributor has added Rajput word with Dalal gotra origin of rulers on 13th Dec.

Rathorejaat (Talk | contribs | block)

Is there any historically acceptable evidence/reference for the same or They are made cross breed of rajput man badgujjar woman union = Dalal Jats!!

To me this seems to figment of imagination whether bhat jogi or the present talk contributor. If it is notso proof may be asked from the contributor.--DrRajpalSingh (talk) 10:49, 15 December 2015 (EST)

Solid evidence needed

The following contributor has added Rajput word with Dalal gotra origin of rulers on 13th Dec.

Rathorejaat (Talk | contribs | block)

Is there any historically acceptable evidence/reference for the same or They are made cross breed of rajput man badgujjar woman union = Dalal Jats!!

To me this seems to figment of imagination whether bhat jogi or the present talk contributor. If it is notso proof may be asked from the contributor.--DrRajpalSingh (talk) 10:53, 15 December 2015 (EST)

Change the title of the page created

Navdeep Singh Virk may be replaced to Jagdish Bains new page created.

Yes, I stand corrected and request you kindly to set the page accordingly.--DrRajpalSingh (talk) 22:19, 1 January 2016 (EST)

Harihar Niwas Dwivedi, Dilli Ke Tomar, book kaise mil sakti please answer do

तोमर वंश

how can i got the copy of dilli ke tomar by harharniwas devedi सर तोमरो के इतिहास पर महाराजा सलकपाल देव तोमर ट्रस्ट के दुवारा शोध् जारी है तोमर जाटों पर मुख्य रूपसे बाघपत के तोमरो पर दो बुक देश के तोमर और तोमर रत्न सलकपाल लिखी जा सकती है। एक बुक शोधरत है जो इंडिया के तोमरो पर है इस बुक के लोए हमने डेटा कलेक्ट किया जैसे वंशावली मेरी वंशावली में दिल्ली नरेश सलकपाल से 32 वि पीढ़ी में हूँ साथ ही भारतवर्ष में 700 मुख्य गाव और कुल 1440 गाव में तोमर वंश अपनी उपशाखा के रूप में निवास करती है यह सब शीघ्र ही जाटलैंड पर डाला जायेगा आप से रिक्वेस्ट है आप मारवाड़ और शेखावाटी क्षेत्र में निवास करने वाले बिजरनिया और गढ़वाल गोत्र के बारे में सटीक जानकरI दे

about ghirth community

sir plz tell me who are ghirth. are they jat or not? bcz they are also landlords and having huge land in HP. and there gotras are as hindu jat. listed in your gotra list and sir why not this jat community has been identified yet if they are jat. as ghirth is pahari word and Chang is Punjabi name and Chang is jat gotra

Hello Laxman Ram Burdak ji

Filling honoured that i am talking to you sir, Just wanted to share some of my thoughts with you, Jatland is a wonderful website, not only for jats, i think for everyone. Jatland is not just for Jats now, its growing very well. And would like to suggest you, we should let it grow for everyone. one day this Jatland will be famous like wikipedia it self. Just don't open it only for jat community. It feels like casteism. I respect that we both are jats but now its time we should think big. Please allow people to write about anything in the world. And Yes some times i copy stuff from wikipedia because i think all that is authentic and genuine, but if you don't like that i can stop doing so. Please guide me how should i go about this. And sir if u can help me putting 2 articles on wikipedia, please help me if u can ? i dont know how to do it on wikipedia

Looking forward to see your reply

Regard Vishal Malik (talk) 04:44 11 Nov 2016 (ET)

Hello Laxman Ram Burdak ji

Sir i will make as many articles for you on jatland, but please make two articles on wikipedia for me if u can, i would be really greatful. I tried making it on wikipedia but every time i make it, it shows error to me. I need two articles there, just same as Vishal Malik and 2 article is on my father Dharampal Singh Malik. i Know you can do it. If u will do this for me. I will make 20 articles for you on jatland. But please help me sir Atleast for humanity. I tried asking for help from many people but no one know how to operate it. you are the only one who know about this properly.

Also tell me sir, is it possible to be Wiki Moderator like you, i also wanna join jatland as moderator. What should i do to join you ?

Well this is my whats app number sir +19059661214 and my email ID - Thank you and also looking forward from you

Regards Vishal Malik (talk) 03:46 11 Nov 2016 (ET)

Hello Laxman ji

I Know sir ! You, Dayanand ji, Prem Sukh ji and Dr Rajpal Singh ji are moderators but i also know, you all four not related to each other. So why cant i work with you ? And second thing, aapne answer nahi deya. will you help me in creating those two articles on wikipedia or not ?


Vishal Malik (talk) 06:21, 12 November 2016 (EST)

wow Awesome ! Thankyou are just awesome In return if you want my help in anything i would love to help you Really Thankyou once again ! That really means a lot to me

Vishal Malik (talk) 13:50, 12 November 2016 (EST)

Bhidada & Balundiya

-- ~ ~ ~ ~ hello laxman ji please add this gotra "bhidada" भीदादा and "balundiya" बलुन्दिया

Page Mamluk Dynasty of Delhi

Burdak ji, it seems the page on Mamluk Dynasty of Delhi seems to have been deleted. I do not know how did it happen. Please try to restore it. It had many redirects also. --Dndeswal (talk) 22:36, 26 December 2016 (EST)

I tried to restore it and succeeded. Still, pl. check. --Dndeswal (talk) 22:41, 26 December 2016 (EST)

Page on "Kshatriyas"

Burdak ji, Namaste. I have found two identical pages - Kshatriya and Kshatriyas. Both have different texts. Please have a look and merge the texts and re-direct one of them. Dndeswal (talk) 04:56, 12 February 2017 (EST)

Page on Taj Mahal

Burdak ji, Namaste. I have created a page on Taj Mahal. Please expand it, giving references from Jat History etc. Also, please allot suitable categories. Dndeswal (talk) 00:52, 7 March 2017 (EST)

Page on Dr. Ram Pratap

Burdak ji, I have amended the page on Dr. Ram Pratap. The original page showed that his gotra is Sahu. I have corrected it to Sohu, because at page Rajasthan (MLAs list), his name is written as Ram Pratap Sohu. Please check whether his gotra is Sahu or Sohu. Dayanand Deswal (talk) 04:31, 9 March 2017 (EST)

Deswal ji I have verified Dr. Ram Pratap. He is Sahu and not Sohu. Laxman Burdak (talk) 06:36, 9 March 2017 (EST)

Kheri Karmu

Burdak ji, Namaste. I have found that MP (1977) from Kairana constituency Shri Chandan Singh belonged to Kheri Karmu village. His bio data is available at LS website. Pl. see the page - I have mentioned at page whether it can be ascertained that he belonged to Jat community or not (since gotra is not mentioned in name). If yes, a page can be created. This can be checked from a reliable source. Regards. Dayanand Deswal (talk) 04:32, 27 March 2017 (EDT)

Dhiman Goutra

sir ek user hain Priyanshuch31 jo ki haryana se hain aur Dhiman goutra se taluk rakhte hain vo dhiman goutra ke bare me jankari mang rahe hain sir ho sake to unki kuch help kijiyega.

Kotra Chopra vs. Kotra Bhopal

Burdak ji, Namaste. Please check whether village pages Kotra Bhopal and Kotra Chopra are the same place. If so, please have them merged. Dayanand Deswal (talk) 08:26, 17 November 2017 (EST)

Regarding a misconception.

Sir, Recently i discovered that, the mentioned villages , Alimpura and Amlaiya are actually same at ground. Amlaiya is the ancient name, the present official name is Alimpura. I request you to make changes, as suggested. --Ashokchoudhry (talk) 10:56, 2 March 2018 (EST)

I have merged both. See Alimpura. Can you tell me its tahsil?Laxman Burdak (talk) 12:06, 2 March 2018 (EST)
Peeplu is the tehsil of Alimpura. --Ashokchoudhry (talk) 12:11, 2 March 2018 (EST)

Your village name

What is your village name and tahsil?Laxman Burdak (talk) 12:16, 2 March 2018 (EST)

Village Name : Awandiya, Tehsil Phagi.--Ashokchoudhry (talk) 12:34, 2 March 2018 (EST)
Sir, you are mistaken. I belong to jaipur, not tonk. Ashokchoudhry (talk) 12:45, 2 March 2018 (EST)

For vote and citation on Wikipedia against deletion of page Todawata

Hello, Laxman Ji, few days ago I have created a page Todawata on Wikipedia. But a Wikipedia user nominate it for deletion, so I request you to give your valuable time to vote and cite any reliable source. here is the link of deletion entry. Thanks - Ashokchoudhry (talk) 06:19, 16 March 2018 (EDT)

I know this topic is not related with this wiki but you can help me against deletion of this page from Wikipedia. Ashok TodawataTalk 07:12, 16 March 2018 (EDT)

New Message

You have a new message at User:Ashokchoudhry's talk page


I have removed the surname section from infobox. See this. Ashok Todawata Talk 07:27, 18 March 2018 (EDT) -Ashok Todawata Talk 07:36, 18 March 2018 (EDT)

See my Contact Section - Ashok Todawata Talk 07:41, 18 March 2018 (EDT)

InputBox Extension

Laxmanji, can you install the inputbox extension in JatLand Wiki. here is the link if you interested. I would be happy if you are interested in it. - Ashok Todawata Talk 11:52, 19 March 2018 (EDT)

Use of InputBox

I'm making new templates for this wiki, so the inputbox extension help me to get different types of values from users and make operations over values. The inputbox extension make this wiki more attractive and convenient. Here is the link with instructions. Ashok Todawata Talk 11:00, 21 March 2018 (EDT)

Waiting for your reply! - Ashok Todawata Talk 04:10, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

Multiple pages

Laxmanji, there are multiple pages of a user.
Chaudhary Amit Singh Gahlyan and User:Amitgahlyan06, both are same and contains same content. It increases the redundancy. As per my views please merge both pages. Thankyou. Ashok Todawata Talk 06:42, 8 May 2018 (EDT)

Thanks Ashokji. I have removed content from User page. User page will remain there as it is automatically generated. Writes wants his own page. Let it be. But removed multiple content. Hope it will do. Laxman Burdak (talk) 07:16, 8 May 2018 (EDT)
Thanks Laxmanji, to pay attention to my point. Ashok Todawata Talk 07:25, 8 May 2018 (EDT)

Same gotras

Laxmanji, please see Sihag and Siwal. Are they both same or not, there are links redirects to both pages. Thanks. Ashok Todawata Talk 12:38, 12 May 2018 (EDT)

Ashokji Sihag and Siwal are same Gotra variants. Laxman Burdak (talk) 08:56, 13 May 2018 (EDT)
OK, But both have separate pages. Ashok Todawata Talk 13:10, 13 May 2018 (EDT)
Yes they will have to be merged. Laxman Burdak (talk) 12:55, 16 May 2018 (EDT)

about gotras

How to add village and notable person in a gotra

Wordlist Of Dhundari Language

Ashokji we are already compiling Rajasthani dictionary. See Glossary_of_Rajasthani_Language

We should keep same pattern of transliteration. You can see in above Rajasthani dictionary the Tips for pronunciation of Rajasthani words are: a (अ ) as a in "America", ā (आ) as a in “father”; i (इ) as i in “ill”, ī (ई) as ee in “eel”; u (उ) as u in “full”, ū (ऊ) as oo in “fool”; ṇ as nna (ण), ḷ as lla (ळ), ṅ as nga (ङ), ñ as nya (ञ), ś as sha (श), ṣ as ssa (ष), ḍ as dda (ड़), ṭ as ट, t as त

This is standard International practice. So let us use same in all dictionaries. Regards, Laxman Burdak (talk) 01:30, 24 May 2018 (EDT)

Thanks Laxmanji for this info. Ashok Todawata Talk 04:04, 25 May 2018 (EDT)
How to transliterate द and ड in this pattern. Ashok Todawata Talk 08:00, 1 June 2018 (EDT)
द=da, ड=ḍa Laxman Burdak (talk) 08:05, 1 June 2018 (EDT)
Thanks.Ashok Todawata Talk 08:21, 1 June 2018 (EDT)

Vansh in Info box

Ashokji Vansh is not of much significance in Jats. It is clan that matters. We can remove Vansh entry which is empty in most cases in info-box. Regards, Laxman Burdak (talk) 13:22, 30 June 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for suggestion, Vansh section has been removed from the Info-Box. Ashok Todawata Chat 12:08, 10 July 2018 (EDT)