Sorry not Hindus ...Religion of Jats

This is an eternal debate. Since the inception of Jatland, it has been an inherent discussion without any astounding conclusion. Debaters piss in each other paint and say "hey, it's raining". Anyway, show must go-on, divine feed for the souls..hope we again see the same good old days of JL.......
 
On the topic, Jatts and "organized religions" are poles apart morally, culturally and historically .....we were the pastoralists.."avarna or outcast for the brahmanical elites" ..gradually kept adopting the dominant religion of the land but barely glued with it blindly...For the hinduism, journey is still going on, slow but steady... outast->shudra->vaishya/Kshatriya........
 
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Religion overall will be out casted in coming decades. Over the globe many people are opting out of agnostic views.

prashantacmet said:
On the topic, Jatts and "organized religions" are poles apart morally, culturally and historically .....we were the pastoralists.."avarna or outcast for the brahmanical elites" ..gradually kept adopting the dominant religion of the land but barely glued with it blindly...For the hinduism, journey is still going on, slow but steady... outast->shudra->vaishya/Kshatriya........
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prashantacmet said:
This is an eternal debate. Since the inception of Jatland, it has been an inherent discussion without any astounding conclusion. Debaters piss in each other paint and say "hey, it's raining". Anyway, show must go-on, divine feed for the souls..hope we again see the same good old days of JL.......
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hehe.......are you guys in kindergarten that each other can make wet in the loo and shout for making fun......I didnot said that, its Prashant.
 
prashantacmet said:
.....we were the pastoralists.."avarna or outcast for the brahmanical elites" ..........
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I never heard any story about being 'a grazier'.....yes, we owned lands and are warriorlike for protecting land or winning regime.....we are farmers, we are self - oblivion when it comes for brotherhood......one might deny the fact, but, its true that we have endless fight among us because the stronger knows well how to split this power. That is why we even fail to address masses what Modi is doing these days who was just a tea-maker who hardly own any land when he started his journey.
 
neel6318 said:
I never heard any story about being 'a grazier'.....yes, we owned lands and are warriorlike for protecting land or winning regime.....we are farmers, we are self - oblivion when it comes for brotherhood......one might deny the fact, but, its true that we have endless fight among us because the stronger knows well how to split this power. That is why we even fail to address masses what Modi is doing these days who was just a tea-maker who hardly own any land when he started his journey.
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That was long time back. p\Probably you would have heard the fascinating stories about chariot and horse riding ppl coming down from far north eurasia steppe and crushing the indus land under their feet and laying down the foundation of vedic civilization. who were those? those were the nomadic , tent dwellers, who grabbed the land of the "almost decayed" indus valley civilization. Anyway, it is going to be exhausting run. But one thing I want to assure if there is any residue left of those steppe warrior in modern south asia..avarna jatts are the best representative of that...not the so called elite priesthood........
 
prashantacmet said:
That was long time back. p\Probably you would have heard the fascinating stories about chariot and horse riding ppl coming down from far north eurasia steppe and crushing the indus land under their feet and laying down the foundation of vedic civilization. who were those? those were the nomadic , tent dwellers, who grabbed the land of the "almost decayed" indus valley civilization. Anyway, it is going to be exhausting run. But one thing I want to assure if there is any residue left of those steppe warrior in modern south asia..avarna jatts are the best representative of that...not the so called elite priesthood........
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oh!......I am not fascinated by chariot and its rider. Also, I am not in choice to write any TAT which can pull me back to long time back. I simply wrote what is true. That is the difference that I did not prefer any UP Jat. Haryanvi know better about land share. Most of Rajasthani didn't own much of land, still they prove to be victorious warriors. And Delhi jats always looked ahead.

Sorry! But you did not have a strong point to make a group believe. Represent yourself, community will surely follow you accepting all hurdles of life!
 
neel6318 said:
oh!......I am not fascinated by chariot and its rider. Also, I am not in choice to write any TAT which can pull me back to long time back. I simply wrote what is true. That is the difference that I did not prefer any UP Jat. Haryanvi know better about land share. Most of Rajasthani didn't own much of land, still they prove to be victorious warriors. And Delhi jats always looked ahead.

Sorry! But you did not have a strong point to make a group believe. Represent yourself, community will surely follow you accepting all hurdles of life!
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Lady, My sincere apologies for not being so clear. Infact, I was "high on the stuff" at that time;). Hope, you are also calm and composed. And I really admire your preference. At-least, we, the wretched and miserable, UP jatts escaped the hunt. :applause::tears_of_joy:
 
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prashantacmet said:
Lady, My sincere apologies for not being so clear. Infact, I was "high on the stuff" at that time;). Hope, you are also calm and composed. And I really admire your preference. At-least, we, the wretched and miserable, UP jatts escaped the hunt. :applause::tears_of_joy:
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anyways,.........I had my meals properly all the time, so don't need goat to roast on fire :suspicion:
 
I read few comments not all, and by large we in today's world write our religion as Hindu and accepted that. But if you look deeply in brhamanic rituals and ours (which are somehow already influenced by now) and talk to our elders ( 65+) you will realize we are very different than other mainstream hindus or popular culture of hinduism.
But if we look at Hinduism as umbrella under which various different cultures are united we can say we are Hindus but definitely not the Brahaminic hinduism.
I agree with Prashant on the journey from nomadic to avarna to shudra to claiming Kshatriya identities. But the reality of today is we are getting inclined towards brahminic religion with every generation since last few decades.
 
anil_rathee said:
......But the reality of today is we are getting inclined towards brahminic religion with every generation since last few decades.
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this is also an achievement/....... a change/ ...... a new identity in future/ ......

one day we will surely have our own God that way :angel:
 
Okay. What Jats shall choose, considering socio-political situation, as their religion except Hinduism? It has proven by RSS/BJP already that religion is a great way to get anything but the truth and peace. One can argue about being religion-less which I favour personally however considering the situation Jats could try Sikhism or Buddhism.
 
very simple! My religion has a different believe what others hardly talk or discuss in depth like other convictions, and that is "I am a human being". So, being human is my religious principle. :victorious:. This is called "HUMANISM". Now, do not rush into defining me an atheist. I worship being human and the supreme powers gifted to us at birth and by nurture. This makes me more responsible for my acts and accountable for the deeds to others. :)
 
To the true meaning of it, I would second that, but Samar also raised important point here. For that sake of that I would go for Sikhism which is humane as well as united.

neel6318 said:
very simple! My religion has a different believe what others hardly talk or discuss in depth like other convictions, and that is "I am a human being". So, being human is my religious principle. :victorious:. This is called "HUMANISM". Now, do not rush into defining me an atheist. I worship being human and the supreme powers gifted to us at birth and by nurture. This makes me more responsible for my acts and accountable for the deeds to others. :)
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Choose the religion with most holidays..........

But i am now Atheist...... I respect them all but don't follow any of them. How about that?
 
anil_rathee said:
To the true meaning of it, I would second that, but Samar also raised important point here. For that sake of that I would go for Sikhism which is humane as well as united.
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So, you are ready to wear Sikh style turban for particular ritual...... ? ........ Look at parents, what if, they did not like this. :)
 
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