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Namaste, Ashok ji and Burdak sir! User:Dahiya1208 has moved a couple of pages, and I request you to look into that: https://www.jatland.com/home/Special:Log/move

Kindly fix this! I do not want to do that myself, because I do not want to risk loosing any content. You understand this better than me, so I request you to fix this. Later on, when I would get a considerable amount of free time, I will look into his edits to separate the good from the bad (too many edits). With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 14:15, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Kindly also look into the "Moves" by User:Vikramsiwach I think that while trying to fix his moves, I may have also made a mistake. What should be the title of the page Sohanjani Jattan. Ashok ji, kindly fix this, please! With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 14:23, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Also, kindly fix the related re-directs also. They may have gotten disrupted. With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 14:26, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

In the weekend, I will look into the edits made by User:Dahiya1208, and separate the good from the bad. With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 18:44, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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Include these countries in Introduction please

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The first line of the main introduction section says that Jats are found in India and Pakistan . Well in Iran, Afghanistan , Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Nepal also have "Jats" as the ethnic group. The plain region of Nepal which is close to the districts of Uttar Pradesh like Pilibhit has few Jat population. As for Iran, Afghanistan , Uzbekistan, Tajikistan goes I'm attaching links where it shows Jats are in minority. So please update the information .

Solankivich (talk) 23:23, 15 April 2020 (UTC)Solankivich

Namaste, Solanki Ji. First of all, thank you for your edits to the existing Wiki articles, and for creating several new articles on Wiki.

Well, what you are asking is not feasible to do, at least not in the very direct way, how you are asking to add the content suggested by you to the introduction on the main article on Jats. However, it may be added to some relevant articles on Wiki. Senior editors are requested to kindly have a look at the content (and sources) being suggested by Solanki Ji, and may decide to add it wherever feasible.

Solanki Ji, I would like to bring to your attention that, generally, YouTube videos are not cited as references on encyclopedias.

Advice: Even while choosing books, journals, etc. as sources, a good user should be cautious about the quality of the source that is being chosen for citation to add content on Wiki. This is done to maintain the quality of content on the encyclopedia. With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 10:53, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Solanki Ji, you may want to read: Jats#Jat People Genetics and Jats#DNA study on Y-STR Haplogroup Diversity in the Jat Population. With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 11:02, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
So let me ask you one thing if the official page of DD news, BBC or UN upload some video from their channel on youtube, is it a reliable source or not ? Minority Rights is an international organization and its data is also used by lots of international organization like United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. Choice is yours I was just suggesting. Thank you Regards Solankivich (talk)
Solanki Ji, kindly note that I have not questioned your sources. You may see that, actually, I have written above, "Senior editors are requested to kindly have a look at the content (and sources) being suggested by Solanki Ji, and may decide to add it wherever feasible." What I wrote above was only an advice to help you become an even better contributor.

In answer to your question, I would say that if anything is broadcasted at the official YouTube channel of a media outlet, it is, almost always, published in text also by them on their official websites. And, the website-links of those news articles from their websites can definitely be considered to be used as a source to add contents on the Wiki articles.

However, this is not the reason for my above stated opinion on your suggestion of adding the suggested content on the main article on Jats. What you are asking is simply not feasible to add to the introduction! With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 14:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Can the para suggested to be added on Jat People page be drafted here and where is it to be added be pointed out? Laxman Burdak (talk) 04:46, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Phalaswal and Faraswal

Is Phalaswal and Faraswal same gotra ? Solankivich (talk) 03:19, 21 April 2020 (UTC)Solankivich

There are two separate pages for these but there is need to review these pages. Laxman Burdak (talk) 16:04, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles to be Edited

Namaste, dear ones! The article Khandoi needs to be edited by Burdak sir or Deswal sir. I would request that the editor goes through the revision history of the article before starting to edit. With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 14:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Also, articles: Shah Bazgarhi, Lalpura-Pachar, Gadli Jattan, Nagli Mehnaj, and Sadullapur Lodhi. With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 10:25, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
I have edited Khandoi. Laxman Burdak (talk) 11:37, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
I have edited Shah Bazgarhi. Laxman Burdak (talk) 11:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
I have edited Lalpura-Pachar. Laxman Burdak (talk) 12:03, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
I have edited Gadli Jattan. Laxman Burdak (talk) 12:09, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
I have edited Nagli Mehnaj.Laxman Burdak (talk) 12:15, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Sadullapur Lodi page already exists. I have made a redirect.
Gadli Fatehabad village page also exists. It has to be found if Gadli Jattan is the same village or different. Dayanand Deswal (talk) 12:12, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Namaste, dear ones! Kindly edit this article also: Chak CH.RUPA RAM WALA. With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 15:22, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
And, Saran#Villages in Hanumangarh district and Saran#Villages in Sri Ganganagar district. There are abbreviations as the names of villages, which needs a look from seniors. With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 15:33, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Another one: Chak CH.RUPA RAM WALA , Jyodi 15/16 LLG. With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 18:24, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
And, Amarpur Dhana. With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 12:35, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Avoid using HTML tags?

html tags are not ideal in a wiki. might be helpful to avoid using them. see mediawiki page on this for more info on equivalent wikimarkup.


Page errors

Page K of this book is giving errors: A_glossary_of_the_Tribes_and_Castes_of_the_Punjab_and_North-West_Frontier_Province_By_H.A._Rose_Vol_II/K

unclear why. may need to be recreated.

A_glossary_of_the_Tribes_and_Castes_of_the_Punjab_and_North-West_Frontier_Province_By_H.A._Rose_Vol_II

This page could not be uploaded long back while upgrading the version. It is very long page and will take lot of time. We will try to recreate. Laxman Burdak (talk) 03:52, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Page deleted. was causing errors in backend. System (talk) 06:09, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned Pages

Please fix orphaned pages - not linked anywhere Special:LonelyPages

Alka Lamba is not a jat

Alka Lamba is not a Jat, please remove her page. In case you are wondering that she must be a Sikh Jatt well no, she is a Punjabi Arora.

Politics of Jats in Delhi state

Long pages are difficult to edit and save. Delhi page has become too long. As such a new page by the title Politics of Jats in Delhi state has been created. All entries be made in this new page and not the Delhi page. Regards, Laxman Burdak (talk) 04:44, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Village naming convention

एक ही नाम के jatland पर कई गाँव हो सकते हैं. ऐसी स्थिति में गाँवों के नाम किस तरह रखा जावे इसके लिए इस पेज पर दिशा निर्देश हैं-- Village naming convention. जब कोई नए गाँव का पेज बनाना हो तो पहले विकि में सर्च कर लो कि वह गाँव पहले से है तो नहीं. यदि नहीं है तब ही नए नाम से पेज बनावें. उदाहरण के लिए आज मेरे ध्यान में आया कि Kirari नाम का एक एतिहासिक गाँव का पेज था जो मेरे द्वारा बनाया गया था और जो गुप्तकालीन अभिलेख के लिए उल्लेखनीय है, Solankivich जी ने इस पेज की सारी जानकारी डिलीट कर Kirari Suleman Nagar की जानकारी डालदी जबकि Kirari Suleman Nagar पहले से ही अलग से बना हुआ है. यह अनजाने में हो जाता है पर यदि देखा नहीं जाता तो बहुत महत्वपूर्ण अभिलेख विलुप्त हो गया होता. पेज को रिवर्ट करने में काफी समय लगा. यह जरूरी है कि किसी एडिटर की जानकारी आप डिलीट कर रहे हो तो पहले उससे चर्चा कर लो. जब आप कोई एतिहासिक जानकारी का पेज बना रहे हो तो आप अपना नाम लेखक में जरूर डाल दो. यह उस सूचना की विश्वसनीयता बढ़ता है. जिस पेज पर कोई महत्वपूर्ण पुरानी एतिहासिक जानकारी है उसको हमेशा Protect कर दें. सुझाव हमेशा इस साईट के सुधार के लिए ही दिये जाते हैं किसी व्यक्तिगत कारण से नहीं. Laxman Burdak (talk) 05:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Kirari

Sorry for the inconvenience, I did it by mistake sir. I will pay more attention next time. Thank you for the advice and reverting it. User:Solankivich (talk)

John Paul Tewatia

Informing User:Dndeswal ji User:Lrburdak ji, User:HardeepMoar ji Respected Admins, on pages like Tevatia, Janauli, Gulaothi, Janoothar, Bhatona and many more. It is mentioned that some guy named John Paul Tewatia founded Janauli Village around 2000 years ago.

  • So my questions is
  • a) Was he "John Paul Tewatiya" or "Jan Pal" Tewatiya (just guessing) ? If not "John Paul" then it can be some kind of a minor mistake.
  • b) According to the information which posted on 2005 that was 15 years ago (as of May 2020). So 2000 + 15 + 25 (guessing the age of mysterious John Paul Tewatia in which he may have founded Janauli Village). So John Paul Tewatia was born roughly around 2040 BC, that makes our John Paul Twatiya ji older than.
    • 1)Jesus Christ, born 4 BC - Died 30 AD (36 years after John Paul Tewatia was born) - Founder of Christianity.
    • 2)John the Baptist born 1 BC - Died 28 AD (mostly born after John Paul Tewatia was born) after whom the name John came and
    • 3)Paul the Apostle born 5 AD - Died 64 AD ( 45 year after John Paul Tewatia was born) after whom the name Paul came
    • 4) The first Pope Saint Peter sent the first Christian Missionary to India was Thomas the Apostle in year 54 AD (94 year after John Paul Tewatiawas born)
  • Please change it because according to the facts the information about John Paul Tewatia is inaccurate.
  • There are many misinformation on this website, specially about people in history (making them Jats without any proof)
  • regards

Solankivich (talk) 06:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)Solankivich

Solankivich Ji, thank you for raising this question. Seniors are requested to look into the content of pages suggested by Solanki Ji. With respect and best regards, — HardeepMoar (talk) 12:14, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
We have to be very specific about changes to be made with evidences and references. We can not change because it does not suit us. Some member of community has added and he may have some evidences. So we have to find out who had added a particular content which a member wants to change and then discuss with him. This is fundamental principal of wiki edits. Regards, Laxman Burdak (talk) 04:23, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Use of word Tribe

The use of tribe word for Indian communities was started by British historians during British Rule in India. Prior to this No such word existed in Indian history or any epic. The words used were Gotra, Kula, Vansha etc. The English translation of these words is Clan. It is therefore proposed to replace word tribe with Clan in articles on Jatland. Mind it, it is not to be changed in the books on Jatland as we can not change the content of the book! Regards, Laxman Burdak (talk) 04:14, 8 June 2020 (UTC)